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    Default Where's the fun in that?

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    So, I just finished a Bladeforged Paladin life, ready to TR into... something. Now, the Bladeforged got it done, but it was hack, hack, heal, hack, hack, heal all the way. Some of the quests were fun, but the combat was like having a job.

    I remember combat being fun, even during slayer areas. I think. Not sure when. Comes with getting old, I guess.

    Anyway, I've been working on Iconics, so rolled up a Scoundrel and a Morninglord to test the action. Meh. Maybe the scoundrel with a sickle.

    Anyone have a 'Joyful Killer' build they would like to brag about?

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    Me, I just LOVE disarming traps ! I mean, it's something not every class can do ...
    However, it also has a lot of responsibility - and, you'll be ASKED. To do this job. Multiple times.

    Playing Healer is a similarily satisfying job, but you'll be asked even more. Sometimes even ninja invited ( I had this ).
    "You are a Tiefling. And a Cleric, with the Domain of the Sun. Doesn't that contradict each other ?" "No, all my friends are playing evil. I found that so boring that I decided to be on the good side. And, besides, Sun and Fire, where is the difference, really ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonoma View Post
    (Tom Hanks quote in 'Big')

    So, I just finished a Bladeforged Paladin life, ready to TR into... something. Now, the Bladeforged got it done, but it was hack, hack, heal, hack, hack, heal all the way. Some of the quests were fun, but the combat was like having a job.

    I remember combat being fun, even during slayer areas. I think. Not sure when. Comes with getting old, I guess.

    Anyway, I've been working on Iconics, so rolled up a Scoundrel and a Morninglord to test the action. Meh. Maybe the scoundrel with a sickle.

    Anyone have a 'Joyful Killer' build they would like to brag about?
    Assassin can be fun, especially at cap. Sneak up to a group of enemies without them seeing you, then assassinate 2 in one shot.. then immediately hit dire charge at the mob while they are looking around to see who offed their friends.. mob is now stunned and you can just get all the backstab and helpless damage you like.

    Monk is also fun if you are looking for an active combat situation. You need to dodge, move, tumble, evade in most combat situations. The speed of the monk combined with the active play makes you feel much more involved than just "run in and slash everything".
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    One of the builds I've been running recently is a bladeforged pure fighter. kensai 2hf heavy blades specialist.. added some harper agent to get know the angles for the DC boost & also took a little feydark illusionist for the shadow imbue (saves swapping weapons) & MM immunity, completely ignored the stalwart defender & vanguard trees & it's pretty fun using the different tactical attacks for crowd control.

    The handaxe frenzied berserker swashbuckler build is a nice one too & works great for the tiefling scoundrel - FB goes to tier 5 for the +2 multiplier while swashbuckling gives +2 threat to handaxes for a baseline 18-20/x5 before improved criticals & any other effects, then add a couple of other things as you like, eg.adding racial enhancements to get ash imprisonment nets you a nice extra bit of crowd control/boss fort debuff. My own is a 13bard/5barb/2fighter that went dex based with weapon finesse since I put some points in vanguard for stunning shield & missile shield, but going 2 rogue intelligence based for evasion (with insightful reflexes) & trapping skills, int to hit from harper (to damage comes from swashbuckler) then some in illusionist for greater colour spray would be another good possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDuck81 View Post
    handaxe frenzied berserker swashbuckler build is a nice one too & works great for the tiefling scoundrel
    I posted my Haxen Bard if you want to see more detail. It's a fun go-wild melee build that works heroic and epic. If you have illusionist, you can hack it up a bit for CHA-basis instead of STR, too.

    If you prefer leaning into the current THF meta, I'd recommend a Silvanus Maul Paladin. It needs illusionist CHA hit/dam to really shine, but with T5 KOTC, it's great DPS with similar Ham style. ESOS is about the same as Silvanus Maul if you have one and can be used by non-divine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonoma View Post
    So, I just finished a Bladeforged Paladin life...
    ...the combat was like having a job.
    Bladeforged do not "have fun". They live to serve The Lord of Blades! Try a Halfing Rogue; they are without honor and thus perhaps more to your liking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post
    Bladeforged do not "have fun". They live to serve The Lord of Blades! Try a Halfing Rogue; they are without honor and thus perhaps more to your liking.
    Please, halflings hate adventure, there would be no fun there. Clearly you need to find yourself in the company of dwarves, for they know how to have fun, although, remembering it the next day might be a bit of a challenge.

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    the most fun ive had is on a deep gnome pk monster - works up to 30 if your gear is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjond View Post
    I posted my Haxen Bard if you want to see more detail.
    I bookmarked this for later. I've decided to stop doing Iconics for a while, do some low level builds. Thanks for the input.

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    Pure Wizard EK/PM is a lot of fun. It's whack, whack, whack but with many tools to change the gameplay if you decide whack, whack, whack is getting boring.

    The thing that is most fun about it in my opinion is that you can switch from effective melee to effective caster at a moment's notice because the 5 extra Wizard feats mean your important meta's are free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoobTheProud View Post
    Pure Wizard EK/PM is a lot of fun. It's whack, whack, whack but with many tools to change the gameplay if you decide whack, whack, whack is getting boring.

    The thing that is most fun about it in my opinion is that you can switch from effective melee to effective caster at a moment's notice because the 5 extra Wizard feats mean your important meta's are free.
    I find it's more "whack KABOOM whack KABOOM" It's also just kinda fun to be a wizard, typically the weakest melee class in most games, and play them more like a raging berserker.
    I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was, now what's it is weird and scary to me.

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    I usually get bored easily with the same build so I aim to make hybrid builds even if they are weaker.

    Like DC caster with melee.
    Ranged and melee
    Ranged and caster etc etc.

    Was mentioned before, A deep gnome with phantasmal killer invested EK tree can be fun, have cc, instakills, some melee capability, self healing with PM and trapping. Gear tetris is PITA though and also, if you plan on high reaper, that is not the build you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDuck81 View Post
    I find it's more "whack KABOOM whack KABOOM" It's also just kinda fun to be a wizard, typically the weakest melee class in most games, and play them more like a raging berserker.
    My playstyle is more like dropping an AoE and then whack, whack, whacking in it but yeah I can see where dropping a big nuke between swings could be fun also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoobTheProud View Post
    My playstyle is more like dropping an AoE and then whack, whack, whacking in it but yeah I can see where dropping a big nuke between swings could be fun also.
    I don't bother too much with DC casting on mine & there's the spell range limitation, plus it's the force's edge thing.. melee attack first means more spell crit chance & regardless of how good your weapon is, the spells will generally be where the really serious damage output comes from especially in epics, so I usually open with dire charge which means the follow-up energy burst is more likely to crit (versus helpless things!) then eldritch tempest which will be more likely to crit on that extra +5W & +3 multiplier (against things that are potentially still helpless) & that finishes off most groups of mobs. Rend the soul & stacks of insidious spores on tougher rednames & bosses depending on what works on them too to keep things moving right along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyDuck81 View Post
    I find it's more "whack KABOOM whack KABOOM" It's also just kinda fun to be a wizard, typically the weakest melee class in most games, and play them more like a raging berserker.
    I made a point of honor to make my last Half-Orc life a "Weezurd"
    Lowish Int, all Str, whack things until they die barbarian style, but with glowy elemental imbues 'n stuffz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonoma View Post
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    Anyway, I've been working on Iconics, so rolled up a Scoundrel and a Morninglord to test the action. Meh. Maybe the scoundrel with a sickle.
    Naw, I'm going basic 1-20. Lots of other races.

    I decided on a swashbuckler with sickle, I have a couple of good ones. The 'sickle god' offers a full heal at lvl 6. And, of course, wanted Strike with no Thought, fighter lvl 6. And, wanted to play with new Feydark tree. And greater single weapon fighting.

    The problem with leveling multiclass melee is BAB. A level of bard + a level of fvs (for magical training) gives a BAB of 0. Not much good in a fight. Improved SWF is BAB 6, Greater is BAB 11. Not really a problem if you start at lvl 15.

    So, I picked dragonborn, thinking the breath weapon might be good at level 1, have 14 points to put in racial tree. Worked, but should have picked acid instead of cold. Put 4 APs in spell singer for magical training, then made the mistake of taking fighter lvl 2 instead of FVS.

    Anyway, enjoying running low levels again. The two quests in Cerulean Hills are classic, excellent use of terrian and mob movement. Would like to see this quality at all levels.

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