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    Default Cannith Crafting Help

    Finally got my crafting level over 100 and want to craft an item with a 'guard' like light guard.

    The wiki lists all the guards, but the machine offers NO RECIPES when searching on guard.

    The only thing that seems to be available is an "EFFECT"... not the same thing.

    So, how do you make a guard item, like armor????

    Thanks!

    This link is an image of the updated wiki listing all the guard enchantments:
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/asset.php...2&d=1593441303
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    Damage guards were basically done away with in the Update 46 patch. Which is fine, because even when they worked (and they don't), the damage they inflicted was so puny that there was absolutely no point in doing them at all.

    The only guards worth having are Greensteel guards like Haste to buff yourself, or CC guards like Stone Prison to disable enemies...these actually work. But you can't Cannith Craft them.
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    Default Cannith Cracked

    Looks like the whole Cannith system is borked. Really frustrating.
    Everything I have tried to do tonight is not freaking possible apparently...
    AND IN SPITE of all the CURRENTLY LISTED DOCs.
    Why the heck am I not able to craft a docent (ARMOR) that has the prefix spell resistance and suffix Deathblock?????
    From the recipes that are "available" it is total crapo...NOT impressed at all and I do not like being misled!

    See the figures attached and maybe someone can tell me how to do this in the "new and improved regime".
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    Which part of the process are you getting stuck at - crafting the shards, or applying them to a blanked docent?

    You need to create 3 shards to start with - one minimum level shard for the level you want the item to be, one spell resistance shard, and one deathblock shard. You create these at the Bound Shard device in the crafting hall.

    You then apply each of these in turn at the bound item device on to a disjuncted docent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IJudar View Post
    Finally got my crafting level over 100 and want to craft an item with a 'guard' like light guard.

    The wiki lists all the guards, but the machine offers NO RECIPES when searching on guard.

    The only thing that seems to be available is an "EFFECT"... not the same thing.

    So, how do you make a guard item, like armor????

    Thanks!

    This link is an image of the updated wiki listing all the guard enchantments:
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/asset.php...2&d=1593441303
    The guard damage procs don't really scale that well tbh and from what I remember they are also buggy. That being said some newer random generated loot may be worth investigating like earthguard, nightmare or trap the soul guards. Also there is a fearsome guard (from cannith crafting) effect that I often use upto around level 10 in low reaper that procs sucesssfully quite often.

    Also if you want to spend more time on cannith crafting, it's worth checking the following planner: http://ccplanner.byethost14.com/?i=2

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    Quote Originally Posted by IJudar View Post
    Looks like the whole Cannith system is borked. Really frustrating.
    Everything I have tried to do tonight is not freaking possible apparently...
    AND IN SPITE of all the CURRENTLY LISTED DOCs.
    Why the heck am I not able to craft a docent (ARMOR) that has the prefix spell resistance and suffix Deathblock?????
    From the recipes that are "available" it is total crapo...NOT impressed at all and I do not like being misled!

    See the figures attached and maybe someone can tell me how to do this in the "new and improved regime".
    It's not 'total ****', likely something not being done properly.

    Please take a second or two and let us know what you are doing that isn't working. Look carefully at which machine you are using... You will not find those shards at CC lv 100 on an unbound machine.

    Step 1) Disjunction of the item to be crated
    Step 2) Craft the desired shards on the 'Crafting Device - Bound Shards' (ie. minimum lv shard, spell resistance shard, and deathblock shard)
    Step 3 (a,b,c,d,e,f)
    a) Apply minimum lv shard to disjuncted item in 'Crafting Device - Bound items'
    b) Apply prefix (spell resistance) shard to item
    c) Apply suffix (deathblock) shard to item
    d) Apply 'Extra Effect Slot Item' if wanted (needs a Mark of House Cannith)
    e) Apply extra effect shard.
    f) DONE

    Also keep in mind that the wiki is not the game. Use it for info but don't treat it as Gospel (but all the above steps are on the wiki).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha5440 View Post
    It's not 'total ****', likely something not being done properly.

    Please take a second or two and let us know what you are doing that isn't working. Look carefully at which machine you are using... You will not find those shards at CC lv 100 on an unbound machine.

    Step 1) Disjunction of the item to be crated
    Step 2) Craft the desired shards on the 'Crafting Device - Bound Shards' (ie. minimum lv shard, spell resistance shard, and deathblock shard)
    Step 3 (a,b,c,d,e,f)
    a) Apply minimum lv shard to disjuncted item in 'Crafting Device - Bound items'
    b) Apply prefix (spell resistance) shard to item
    c) Apply suffix (deathblock) shard to item
    d) Apply 'Extra Effect Slot Item' if wanted (needs a Mark of House Cannith)
    e) Apply extra effect shard.
    f) DONE

    Also keep in mind that the wiki is not the game. Use it for info but don't treat it as Gospel (but all the above steps are on the wiki).
    Hey Buddha5440, thanks for your reply and very clear procedure.

    That is what I was trying, but to no avail... The recipes just did not show in the crafting device.

    But when I logged in today, those recipes DID appear in the create bound items machine... VERY WEIRD.

    Maybe this is some kind of bug, but it seems that many 'issues' need to be resolved by un/re summoning pets, etc, and logging off/on...

    Other frustration is due to following the wiki from last year that seems to be totally out of date.

    Moreover, there is a nice tool for Cannith Crafting that also gives recipes that do not work: See link below and image.

    https://www.ddocrafting.info/cannith

    As Matuse posted, looks like the Guards are now gone... but still listed in many critical sources of CC info.

    Thanks again!
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    Default All cannith crafting planners are deprecated

    Quote Originally Posted by K_9 View Post
    The guard damage procs don't really scale that well tbh and from what I remember they are also buggy. That being said some newer random generated loot may be worth investigating like earthguard, nightmare or trap the soul guards. Also there is a fearsome guard (from cannith crafting) effect that I often use upto around level 10 in low reaper that procs sucesssfully quite often.

    Also if you want to spend more time on cannith crafting, it's worth checking the following planner: http://ccplanner.byethost14.com/?i=2
    Hey, thanks for this link, as I was using another planner:

    https://www.ddocrafting.info/cannith

    Unfortunately, ALL of the planners that I have used and tried to study are deprecated and majorly out of date.

    See for example that you CAN NOT CREATE GUARD EFFECTS OF ANY KIND ANY MORE...but the guides list them... massively frustrating.
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    Get past the idea that guard effects were ever worth making, and the whole situation becomes a lot less frustrating. Pretend they aren't even there. Damage guards are terrible. Always have been. And I mean from 14 years ago they were terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IJudar View Post
    Hey, thanks for this link, as I was using another planner:

    https://www.ddocrafting.info/cannith

    Unfortunately, ALL of the planners that I have used and tried to study are deprecated and majorly out of date.

    See for example that you CAN NOT CREATE GUARD EFFECTS OF ANY KIND ANY MORE...but the guides list them... massively frustrating.
    I am not a big fan of these planning tools. This is what I use to figure out what can go on items: https://ddowiki.com/page/Cannith_Crafting/table_1b
    This lists the scaling which I also reference from time to time: https://ddowiki.com/page/Cannith_Crafting/table_3b

    It also lists guards, but other than that the only thing I know that isn't working right is parrying which only works right on armor (maybe shields - never tried that). So just ignore guards and parrying on non-armor and you should be fine with this list.

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