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    Default WARNING TO NEW PLAYERS: Temple of Elemental Evil 2

    To all new players considering the Temple of Elemental Evil 2 quest...

    If you value your time, do NOT attempt to solo this quest, even on Normal, if you have never done it before. The End Boss fight (Zuggtmoy) takes 2-3 hours to reach, and the uninitiated will die within the first few minutes of that battle. And even with the experience of the first run, you will likely die the second time as well, after another 90 minute investment.

    NOT WORTH IT.

    Though nowhere in the game do they warn you about this quest, mainly because getting to the end fight is so relatively easy (aside from the major time investment), succeeding in the boss battle is only possible either via multiple attempts, or via an accomplished party.

    New players should avoid TOEE2 altogether until you are part of an experienced, balanced party with at least one member who has completed the quest before. This will save you hours of time and absurd levels of frustration.

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    2 to 3 hours? It's only listed as a LONG quest. 2 to 2 1/2 hours for an Extra Long I could see, but I've never seen one listed as Long that took that much time.

    What level were you when you ran it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebless View Post
    2 to 3 hours? It's only listed as a LONG quest. 2 to 2 1/2 hours for an Extra Long I could see, but I've never seen one listed as Long that took that much time.

    What level were you when you ran it?
    First time on Heroic I was level 10. The end result was so maddening I logged out and didn't log back on to the game for over a year..

    Today I did it on Epic at level 30. Same result.

    You can do it in under 2 hours if you choose not to get the audio journal entries or optional portal gems.

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    While I agree that this can be a long quest, it doesn't have to be. You only need to do 1 elemental cave. Then you can do the endfight already.
    To find the right way is kind of tricky though. If you don't know the way it takes some time to figure everything out.

    Some people like this kind of dungeon crawling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitusOvid View Post
    Some people like this kind of dungeon crawling.
    I love the crawl, one of my favorite dungeons in the whole game.

    And then it is ruined by the absurd end fight after a couple hours of crawling. Which is just stupid (for first-life toons).
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    You are right. It was one of the sure suggestions for a nerf in Flimsy's thread a while back. Read here. If something will come of this, a change in ToEE should be one of the 1st priorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitusOvid View Post
    You are right. It was one of the sure suggestions for a nerf in Flimsy's thread a while back. Read here. If something will come of this, a change in ToEE should be one of the 1st priorities.

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    It has even been proposed in the past that the end fight be converted into a raid, with the previous parts converted into separate quests as flagging for the raid.
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    A few simple changes would make it less aggravating. No acid dot until after zuggy's shield drops to start the fight. More shrines throughout to buff your character I have had way too many runs where not a single buff shrine spawns and this has happened on full clears as well. A guaranteed defensive shrine before the fight on anything less than Elite difficulty to help newer players.

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    New players without DD running harder than normal/casual are likely getting stuck on part1 on the bugged Cube (water key)
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