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    Lightbulb Next HCL idea: Second Premium only server

    Title say it almost all. For HCL Season 2, please open second server for Premium players only(*).

    And let them compete – VIP server vs Premium server in the manner of points, stat or XP in leaderboard! Let them see on each server, top 10 leaderboards players from the other one, updated online.

    There is nothing better for game, then little competition. Both for our fun and DDO revenue! That should be epic

    (*) – probably, for game health, F2P users should be allowed that server too, because on normal server there will be so little people, that new players will be discourage to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Requiro View Post
    Title say it almost all. For HCL Season 2, please open second server for Premium players only(*).

    And let them compete – VIP server vs Premium server in the manner of points, stat or XP in leaderboard! Let them see on each server, top 10 leaderboards players from the other one, updated online.

    There is nothing better for game, then little competition. Both for our fun and DDO revenue! That should be epic

    (*) – probably, for game health, F2P users should be allowed that server too, because on normal server there will be so little people, that new players will be discourage to play.

    What do you think?
    I'd prefer to have everyone on the same server, so that there is direct competition. I don't really care about what players on another server are doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forzah View Post
    I'd prefer to have everyone on the same server, so that there is direct competition. I don't really care about what players on another server are doing.
    I'd prefer that option too. But I guess Devs think otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Requiro View Post
    And let them compete – VIP server vs Premium server in the manner of points, stat or XP in leaderboard! Let them see on each server, top 10 leaderboards players from the other one, updated online.
    First "season" was VIP only. Make 2nd "season" be Premium only. Then both the classes of customers get their own time.
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    This might have been an over site
    but do you mean: VIP and Prem ? (possible)
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    Only Prem ? (never happen in a million years because they would lose money)

    just asking
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    Everyone on same server.

    Who cares how people paid for their content. Playing together is what matters.
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    ^ yes, now get ready for the hate from the elite end-game crowd.

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    Premium players should be allowed/should have been allowed to participate in HCL.

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    Yeah, and let's open a 3rd HCL server for Aasimar Paladins and a 4th for Dwarf Fighters and a 5th for...

    Anyways I don't see HCL being opened to Premium players. It's too much of a cash grab.
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    I could see them adding a one time season pass for 1295 dp or something...but I don't think it'd be that popular since premium can't compete for favor boards unless they've bought all quests a la carte. So it would really just be buying the cosmetics, ultimately.

    Remember part of the impetus for HCL was to give VIP something special and desirable for their money. The fact that threads like this keep popping up is proof they succeeded

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    Default Put VIP on sale

    They should just put the 3 mouth VIP subscription on a big sale the first week of HardCore. Call it the HardCore kick off sale.

    They might even get some folks that don't want to do HardCore to sign-up just to try VIP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid327 View Post
    Remember part of the impetus for HCL was to give VIP something special and desirable for their money. The fact that threads like this keep popping up is proof they succeeded
    They also succeeded in heavily polarizing an already heavily polarized community.
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    Here is the problem with asking for VIP subscription from well funded Premium players.

    VIP does not have a lot to offer.

    open dungeons on elite for free
    some small bonus to exp
    access to HCL

    THAT IS IT - we already purchased the rest.
    For $15 a month, that is not much

    Yes, we of course paid for VIP for the months of HCL last time,
    it was new and fun.

    Will we do it again? $15 a month for basically just HCL ?
    Some, yes ... others no.

    If HCL stays VIP only, it will have a significantly reduced population.
    Been there, done that ...and why are you hitting us up for more cash each time ?

    But I really don't care anymore, if it is open to premium,
    I will be there. If not...nope.

    And there is a big chunk of Premium players just like me.
    Just a heads up.
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    I agree, mode of payment should not gate entry. However, I speculate that the reason why it was VIP-gated was to maybe have some control over potential overpopulation.
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    or money.

    figure the odds on which
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post
    or money.

    figure the odds on which
    They could just sell HCL tickets in the DDO store for premium players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatherpirate View Post
    This might have been an over site
    but do you mean: VIP and Prem ? (possible)
    or
    Only Prem ? (never happen in a million years because they would lose money)

    just asking
    First server for VIP only - Prem and F2P are not allowed
    Second server for Prem only (and maybe F2P) - VIP are not allowed

    The goal was for competition: VIP vs Prem (+F2P)
    IMO A little competition is a great way for longevity of game. Especially that we don't have PvP.

    Additional for Devs, that means a much more revenue (spending is driven by competition)
    And ultimately more revenue for Devs, mean better game for all of us (in most part).

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    Everyone on same server.

    Who cares how people paid for their content. Playing together is what matters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coffey View Post
    Premium players should be allowed/should have been allowed to participate in HCL.
    Yes, and yes. This is a great idea, but apparently Devs think otherwise. That's why my proposal.

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    They could just sell HCL tickets in the DDO store for premium players.
    Quote Originally Posted by droid327 View Post
    I could see them adding a one time season pass for 1295 dp or something...but I don't think it'd be that popular since premium can't compete for favor boards unless they've bought all quests a la carte. So it would really just be buying the cosmetics, ultimately.(...)
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    It's a new aspect of the game. VIP gets those.

    If you want to be premium and access it, they should add the option to buy access in the store.

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    I think this could be fair for every1
    VIP same as HCL1
    Prem and F2P only get the base slots of their account status (2/3 f2p and 4/5 prem). Delete remove button on the login screen or disable for non vip, kinda same as forgotten realms pass if u don't own it. That would let every1 get a taste of the hardcore league, can get some money from non vip accounts buying char slots since they can't delete and make room.

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