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    Quote Originally Posted by dragondragondragon View Post
    I agree with Lynnabel I don't think they have meetings where they discuss the latest bait and switch strategy to milk the masses
    Yeah, she also claimed they have their own in house testing that showed the initial release of Inquisitive to be in line with everything else and not grossly OP.

    How many posts were there months ago of people saying that Inq would catch a nerf right as Alchemist dropped? 100's. It's one thing to not care about this sort of problem and continue supporting those people but to pretend it's not even happening is something else entirely. Be comfy in your bad decision. Posting here that you don't think it was on purpose, rather than just admitting the addiction is stronger than you are, doesn't help anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chai View Post
    The falconry thing is the same/similar as Harper. It enables character power by allowing stat consolidation. While not as blatant as ramping DPS up to 11, it is still an example of creating demand by allowing already powerful things to exist on the same platform as other powerful things.

    Being able to have max/near max DC and DPS on the same platform using the same stat is more powerful than having to choose between one or the other. While this didnt result in people demanding a falconry nerf, it did help result in people demanding a monk nerf.
    And right after they made my monk viable again, lol.

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    We could say there's no bait and switch, they just do what whiners ask for... In a wrong way (like warlock, monkand incoming changes, already posted in lamma) but in the right time, so after discount or before next release

    You can call it as you prefer, but in my guild we already knew the "inquis balance" would come right before alchemist cause... Well, they need to sell inquis lol

    And the drops in 1st week after release is not only confirmed, it's a whole institution, i got almost every heroic and epic piece in stealer of souls pack, running 4 times on heroic elite and 4 in epic elite with 2 mules, that's not luck nor rng (same reason to not purchase expansions for them unless at 75% off, cause drops are abismal later on)
    psykopeta is finally baconpletionist because there isn't anything to delay it more - thelanis, where the gimps claim to be pros and noobs claim to be pros, no newbies allowed(unless they claim to be pros), we have enough drama w/o them. PS: I post only in the latest thread shown in main page, in the weird case u want something from me, feel free to send pm

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    You can explain this to a 13 year kid what bait and switch is whilst pilfering his wallet for milk money. That doesn't make your explanation or rather proxy apologist post true.

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    Default Totally not Planned, and Yet Predictable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mindos View Post
    Moments before Alchemist gets released.
    The thing is there is history and context. The timing of these changes nearly always coincide with new shiny things to purchase.

    Intentional or not, it is unfortunate either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karatemack View Post
    The thing is there is history and context. The timing of these changes nearly always coincide with new shiny things to purchase.

    Intentional or not, it is unfortunate either way.
    Yep, Even if there isn't some shadowy meetings to plan for bait and switch there always seems to be a pattern of everthing releasing OP and then getting nerf-batted as soon as the new shiny comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyfiel View Post
    Because there isn't a pattern. How many nerfs have the following received?
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    Well Aasimar is getting nerfed this update. Twice. Loosing 5% of their racial hp bonus and their LoH is being capped at character level 20. Just FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlavoredSoul View Post
    Yep, Even if there isn't some shadowy meetings to plan for bait and switch there always seems to be a pattern of everthing releasing OP and then getting nerf-batted as soon as the new shiny comes out.
    This is bound to happen with the way updates are planned in this game (slow releases with combined new content and bug fixes).

    The extra sales from making new classes much more powerful than existing classes are also exaggerated. In a PVE game where you are expected to reincarnate, people will buy new classes anyway, for the past lifes or just to try them. So the financial incentive for bait and switch tactics isn't as large as people claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelstar View Post
    The fact that some changes are necessary is not diminished by the fact that other necessary changes have not happened yet.

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    No, it's not a bait and switch. It's simply consistent BAD DMing.

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    'There is no Bait and Switch in DDO, let me explain'





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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsSEiZNG-y8
    Last edited by Kutalp; 01-15-2020 at 11:39 AM.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
    Old grumpy Humanoid Rogue thingy.

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