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    If i get shortsword deity, i can get +9 damage total with drow enhancements (wc i plan to get for darkfire).

    Question is: shortsword for +9 damage or rapier for +5 damage with 18-20 crit.

    How much strength bonus to damage do i need for the crit bonus to be more effective than the +4 damage that shortsword gives from deity

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    Where are you getting the extra +4 with short swords from? Are you planning on burning 2 feats for the deity feats? (Paladins only get the level 1 and 6 deity feats free neither of which increase damage.)

    I'm too tired to run the math right now, but it wouldn't surprise me if rapiers were ahead even at level 1. (Barring the use of weapons with unusual crit/damage profiles of course)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    Where are you getting the extra +4 with short swords from? Are you planning on burning 2 feats for the deity feats? (Paladins only get the level 1 and 6 deity feats free neither of which increase damage.)

    I'm too tired to run the math right now, but it wouldn't surprise me if rapiers were ahead even at level 1. (Barring the use of weapons with unusual crit/damage profiles of course)
    Oh ok thanks.i forgot.. you need to spend feats to get that bonus damage. I guess rapiers it is, and unyielding sovereignity

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkniteyogi View Post
    If i get shortsword deity, i can get +9 damage total with drow enhancements (wc i plan to get for darkfire).

    Question is: shortsword for +9 damage or rapier for +5 damage with 18-20 crit.

    How much strength bonus to damage do i need for the crit bonus to be more effective than the +4 damage that shortsword gives from deity
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    Depends on what you already have i guess, and if you plan to play at 30. There arent a lot of named Rapiers, and the supernice one drops in a top level raid.

    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legendary_Moonwillow

    This on the other hand is relatively easy to get.

    And may as well mix it up for rapier / shortsword combo if TWF.

    Or abandon your deity and use dual Legendary Vulkoor's Edge :P

    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legend...lkoor%27s_Edge

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    Best weapon? That's easy, Great Crossbow with Inq.

    You can copy paste this answer to any class combination you wish to use.

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    Best weapon for drow paladin?

    non-repeating crossbow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by palladin9479 View Post
    Best weapon? That's easy, Great Crossbow with Inq.

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    Which of the Inquisitive benefits still apply to Great Crossbows that we normally get with Light/Heavy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkniteyogi View Post
    Oh ok thanks.i forgot.. you need to spend feats to get that bonus damage. I guess rapiers it is, and unyielding sovereignity
    That's what I did. The "superheal" from Unyielding deity feat was too handy to pass up.

    Since I grab IC: Piercing, I use this in mid and late heroics:
    https://ddowiki.com/page/Itemeathnip
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dulcimerist View Post
    That's what I did. The "superheal" from Unyielding deity feat was too handy to pass up.

    Since I grab IC: Piercing, I use this in mid and late heroics:
    https://ddowiki.com/page/Itemeathnip
    oh damn i love those death nips.

    anyway, i am running my paladin and at level 9 now.
    here's what i'm doing:

    7 pal / 2 rogue currently
    doing Quarterstaff with Power attack, Cleave, Great Cleave, I.C. Bludgeon. (the 2 rogue q.staff enhancements have exceeded my expectations. 25% doublestrike and 15% attack speed boost, + it looks cool. Only drawback is more constant repairs)

    At level 12, I plan to switch to two weapon fighting. I'll trade my Cleave feats and use the Cleaves of KoTC enhancement tree. Perfect. More toys to play with in one life.

    Also, I decide to go with Longswords or Battle Axes and Knight's training, rather than Rapiers. The drow racial tree i decided is really not worth it at 2AP for each +1 damage to rapier.

    Having a lot more fun than I expected with my first Pally life.
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    My TWF Drow paladin doesn't bother with any racial enhancements, despite using rapiers and short swords until she got her Deathnips.

    Knight's Training is definitely an interesting route! It you're interested in trying that option sooner, the ML8 longswords from Relic adamantine turn-ins might be nice:
    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Nightforge_Avenger_Blade

    Getting a pair of these during the anniversary event in February might be fun:
    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:The_Banhammer

    My TWF Drow paladin ran a pair of those through Night Revels last month, and it was fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkniteyogi View Post
    oh damn i love those death nips.

    anyway, i am running my paladin and at level 9 now.
    here's what i'm doing:

    7 pal / 2 rogue currently
    doing Quarterstaff with Power attack, Cleave, Great Cleave, I.C. Bludgeon. (the 2 rogue q.staff enhancements have exceeded my expectations. 25% doublestrike and 15% attack speed boost, + it looks cool. Only drawback is more constant repairs)

    At level 12, I plan to switch to two weapon fighting. I'll trade my Cleave feats and use the Cleaves of KoTC enhancement tree. Perfect. More toys to play with in one life.

    Also, I decide to go with Longswords or Battle Axes and Knight's training, rather than Rapiers. The drow racial tree i decided is really not worth it at 2AP for each +1 damage to rapier.

    Having a lot more fun than I expected with my first Pally life.
    Almost made me want to roll one of these up, but i remember the last time with paladin, that was a veeeeery long journey. The 3 rogue splash with qstaves is a pretty decent MC actually with the new feat. Core 2: Stick Fighting: You can now use your Dexterity modifier for damage with Quarterstaves. Gain feat: Swords to Plowshares: The feat grants Quarterstaves, Kamas, and Sickles a +1 Morale bonus to their Critical threat range.

    Using an Elemental Bloom for x4 crits :P.

    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Elemental_Bloom


    Mhhmmhm, I almost want to actually play this one :P.

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    Default Drow Mentality if not a weapon of choice

    Drow Vistani/Swash/Occult is good. 2 rogue/3-6 barb/12-15 bard. (Can swap to other trees at will with ease. Never goes full at any tree unless you wish to )


    Anyhow the best someone can pull out of Drow there is Vermin lore and Faerie fire. (AP and in general combat focus)


    Collect any small throwing (I prefer throwing and bane weapons also Nightforge spike is a good one. Dwarven thrower is nice several other vorpals and banes do good job for different types of npcs) or small melee weapons and keep moving. Some nice shurikens from lowby and FR quests aswell as Ravenloft. Anyhow I choose to focus at Throwing and throwing speed (if not full BAB) use melee for fun. Stats start as 14 str, 16dex 16 char 12 cons. Delivered between char and dex. Char being the highest related to Bardic abilites.

    You can use certain spec from dagger clickies then swap to another weapon of choice. This way you can bypass multi DR and monster types with fast and mobile throwing/bardic style. Can add devoted throwers and more to table.


    It is pretty enjoyable and survivable one since it doesnt focus hardcore at a specific fighting style or top dps build. Thus lets the players swap between different combinations since the ability scores or feat focuses doesnt restrict the player much. Can go Swash, Spellsinger, Warchanter with or without more and less weapon or spell style simply by resetting the enhancements.




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ3s8ywQlKA


    Would you like to try a Paladin version (Holysword/Vistani/KOTC/SD ?) ? Up to you. Enjoy.
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