U44 Preview 2: Named Loot

[HungarianRhapsody]

No I understood your point fine. You can't be bothered to set aside gear for your ETR(s) or retrieve it from wherever so the loot from this pack should be less worthwhile to those of us who do just so you can immediately equip this upon ETR. You do realize in future ETRs you will still have to retrieve this loot from wherever you currently keep the gear you have been wearing at 20? Before sharn equipment existed, I had crafted some generic sets for my characters. The breaking points were 15/16 and 21. There simply isn't a reason to wear something scaled to level 20, even before Sharn gear existed.

there’s a super good reason to swing an ml 20 weapon.

[Aelonwy]

there’s a super good reason to swing an ml 20 weapon.

perhaps. Although I was responding to a poster that wants ALL the KotB gear changed to ml 20 not just the weapons. Personally, I could wait till 21 to invest the sentient XP in a slightly better scaled ml 21 weapon rather than 20 but I accept that's not the case for everyone. I do not accept that ALL the gear should be scaled to level 20 because someone doesn't want to use their Sharn gear or crafted gear for one (more) level.

https://ddowiki.com/page/Cannith_Crafting/table_3b

Examples:
Ability scores +1
Dodge +1
Seeker +1
Nat AC +1
Assassinate +1 & Ins. Assassinate +1
Fortification + Ins. Fort +7% total

The level 20 weapons already lost 1d6 dmg proc, 1d10 bane, spellpower and 1% lore.

If all the gear is made 20, I will probably end up just using my already made crafted gear instead. Not much point in level 20 named stuff with Sharn item set bonuses making them more than good enough to last till 21.

[capsela]

No I understood your point fine. You can't be bothered to set aside gear for your ETR(s) or retrieve it from wherever so the loot from this pack should be less worthwhile to those of us who do just so you can immediately equip this upon ETR. You do realize in future ETRs you will still have to retrieve this loot from wherever you currently keep the gear you have been wearing at 20? Before sharn equipment existed, I had crafted some generic sets for my characters. The breaking points were 15/16 and 21. There simply isn't a reason to wear something scaled to level 20, even before Sharn gear existed.

I wasn't aware of the scaling differences between 20 and 21. Many people token farm at 20 and never even reach 21. So blame tokens, not me.

Plus we now get very little xp on devil assault.

[kmoustakas]

On one way, yeah, those are most pleasant rune arms. On the other hand, if I sort the rune arm list by level, there already are several fire rune arms at low level. Maybe Acid instead?
https://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Rune_Arms

The first runearm that breaks breakables is level 5. I don't care about the actual element, it could fire cows for all I care I just want it to break breakables in an good area.

[LightBear]

The first runearm that breaks breakables is level 5. I don't care about the actual element, it could fire cows for all I care I just want it to break breakables in an good area.

Wait what?




Moooooo

[Annihilyght]

Wait what?




Moooooo

ROFLMAO, spit coffee everywhere...thanks for that!

[Shedrakzo]

Since there's been both a suggestion for the fireball/cannon shot style for breaking breakables and mention of an acid runearm, perhaps we could get an acid blast runearm? Bonus Points if it could actually be an acid version of the Exploding Cannon Shot. IE: Acid and Blunt damage on the spell and imbue.

Additionally, while I'm not sure of what you could put on the heroic version, it would be nice to see a stoneskin proc on the epic version as we could use a new level 21 runearm as well.

[Wongar]

- posted in wrong thread - moved

[AstorPotamus]

So...since apparently nobody else has addressed the 400lb gorilla in this room:

WHY NO EPIC ARMOR???

[Greantun]

Probably already know, but want to put this out anyway.

On a human male, Red Robes of Charity Clothing has no graphics. I put it on, and it doesn't look like I did anything. All of the other armors have a texture, just not that one.

[Fivetigers33]

WHY NO EPIC ARMOR???

Because nobody is taking off their sharn set for a single piece of gear with only slightly better stats. You'd be losing way more than you gain.

[Cantor]

Any particular reason why insightful ability boosts are limited (with the exception of one trinket) to belts?

Like to see this swapped with bracers since stat is already on rings.

[droid327]

On one way, yeah, those are most pleasant rune arms. On the other hand, if I sort the rune arm list by level, there already are several fire rune arms at low level. Maybe Acid instead?
https://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Rune_Arms

Since there's been both a suggestion for the fireball/cannon shot style for breaking breakables and mention of an acid runearm, perhaps we could get an acid blast runearm? Bonus Points if it could actually be an acid version of the Exploding Cannon Shot. IE: Acid and Blunt damage on the spell and imbue.

Additionally, while I'm not sure of what you could put on the heroic version, it would be nice to see a stoneskin proc on the epic version as we could use a new level 21 runearm as well.

I'd also love to have more Shot type runearms for taking out breakables and barriers. Its really the only effect I actually use - otherwise RAs are just stat sticks and an annoying graphic blocking my view.

Conversely, I'd like to see more diversity in RA effects than just damage type and geometry. I'd like to see some buff/heal-type RAs or CC RAs like we had in AoR...though I imagine an afterthought runearm in a starter pack is probably not the place to look for that. (Arti level+INT mod) * charge tier in temp HP? That'd scale well for both starter and early Epic and might actually get used.

[Lynnabel]

I'd also love to have more Shot type runearms for taking out breakables and barriers.

I just want ranged attacks to interact with breakable/burnable shared door scripts. Ugh. That's been on my hitlist for like 3 years now. I hate having to punch doors when playing a ranged build. Even typing this reply out is making me frustrated.

[Loromir]

Weapons

Epic Sworn Silver (Weapon Type) Weapons (One of each weapon type)
Minimum Level: 20
Damage Dice: 3[Normal W for the Weapon Type]

• +6 Enhancement Bonus
• Silver, Alchemical
• Unnatural Bane 4d10
• Destruction
• Righteous This weapon is imbued with holy power, giving it an additional +2 to attack bonus and damage against any evil creature. This power makes the weapon good-aligned.
• Empty Red Augment Slot

Epic Ethereal (Weapon Type) Weapons (One of each weapon type)
Minimum Level: 20
Damage Dice: 3[Normal W for the Weapon Type]

• +6 Enhancement Bonus
• Impactful 4d6
• Ghostbane 4d10
• Weaken Undead Undead creatures struck by this weapon find themselves more vulnerable. Each time this weapon deals damage to an undead creature, the target loses 20% of its Fortification for the next 20 seconds. This effect does not stack with itself.
• Adamantine
• Empty Red Augment Slot

Epic Sceptre of (SpellPower Type) Weapons (One of every Spellpower Type)
Minimum Level: 20
Damage: 3[1d6]

• +6 Enhancement Bonus
• Spellcasting Implement +20
• (Spell Lore Type) +16%
• (Spellpower Type) +111
• Insightful (Spellpower Type) +55
• Wizardry +97
• Empty Red Augment Slot

2nd weapon has impactful...which is fine I guess...but isn't that some sort of bludgeon type damage? Seems weird on weapons like daggers and rapiers and such. Could this be changed to maybe untyped or force damage?

[Mindos]

I just want ranged attacks to interact with breakable/burnable shared door scripts. Ugh. That's been on my hitlist for like 3 years now. I hate having to punch doors when playing a ranged build. Even typing this reply out is making me frustrated.

Can we give zero melee damage rider to all ranged attacks? Would that trigger? IDK, there might be in range issues. I mean, is it looking for a damage type flag or is it really a hidden 1hp guarenteed hit item that triggers?

[Lynnabel]

2nd weapon has impactful...which is fine I guess...but isn't that some sort of bludgeon type damage? Seems weird on weapons like daggers and rapiers and such. Could this be changed to maybe untyped or force damage?

Impactful is Force damage.

[Lynnabel]

Can we give zero melee damage rider to all ranged attacks? Would that trigger? IDK, there might be in range issues. I mean, is it looking for a damage type flag or is it really a hidden 1hp guarenteed hit item that triggers?

Throwing more spaghetti onto a big pile of spaghetti already on fire won't really help the "there's too much spaghetti" problem :P I appreciate the enthusiasm, though

[droid327]

Throwing more spaghetti onto a big pile of spaghetti already on fire won't really help the "there's too much spaghetti" problem :P I appreciate the enthusiasm, though

Make block-attack do a melee strike even when wielding a ranged weapon

Pistolwhip

[capsela]

The level 1 stuff only benefits people with no early ghost touch items and sorcs. I predict nobody else will touch that stuff, not even bothering to pick it up and throw it out 2 levels later.

The 20 items are so boring. No set bonuses. Because reasons. No set bonuses = no sale. This is how you trained us.

Poisonclasp
Still trying to make transmutation a thing? Are new transmutation spells coming because otherwise that all those items are just wastes of time. It is also redundant with the new PM hat.

Necklace of Tranquility, a nice item except for the lifesealed which reduces healing of PMs. It is better than every other ring because it is resistance instead of individual saves. Why split up saves? For flavor? It just makes items worse and irritates everyone.

Nothing for ranged builds (which are like 75% of the builds now) except the arrowhead. Which is dubious value. Where's the doubleshot? We don't mention that word around here anymore huh?

Zero armor piercing items. Armor piercing and doubleshot are only for people who spend lots of money not for a cheap pack like this. Is that correct?

Cursed mirror should be a ring or something. Trinket slot is taken already on so many builds.

Curse Resistance. Why is this a thing? Has anyone ever used Curse Resistance items? Why are they still appearing after we told you to stop?

All this stuff is super boring. These are like the charity items you give to red headed step children. Like the give away weapons in ravenloft. Most of these look worse than the level 15 sharn stuff. That said if I do buy this, I'll probably use them anyway because I have zero level 20 items and zero sharn.

Nobody is even talking about this loot. Everyone entered the thread started reading and fell asleep at their keyboard.