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    Default Rogue Wraith Hardcore build help

    I've never been that great at builds but this one seems to be doing ok. I wanted wraith for flavor i would rather not remove it or hopefully i don't need to. Trying to just hit 20 on the HC server with mainly inquisitive for damage and wizard for the wraith form. Int based build with 2 dex level ups for IPS later.


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    Classes: 17 Rogue, 10 Epic, 3 Wizard
    Race: Gnome · · · · · · · ·Alignment: Neutral

    · · ·Start Tome Final
    Str:· · ·6· · 0 · · 8 · · ·HP:· · · · 349 · · ·AC:· · 17
    Dex:· · 17· · 0 · ·23 · · ·PRR: · · · · 0
    Con:· · 12· · 0 · ·14 · · ·MRR: · · · · 0 · · ·+Healing Amp:· · ·0
    Int:· · 18· · 0 · ·35 · · ·Dodge: · 13/25 · · ·-Healing Amp:· · 26
    Wis:· · 13· · 0 · ·15 · · ·Fort:· · · ·0% · · ·Repair Amp:· · · ·0
    Cha:· · ·8· · 0 · ·10 · · ·SR:· · · · · 0 · · ·BAB: · · · · · · 18
    DR:
    Immunities:

    Saves:
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    Fortitude:· · · · ·16
    · vs Poison:· · · ·16
    · vs Disease: · · ·16
    Will: · · · · · · ·21
    · vs Enchantment: ·21*
    · vs Illusion:· · ·21*
    · vs Fear:· · · · ·21*
    · vs Curse: · · · ·21
    Reflex: · · · · · ·25
    · vs Traps: · · · ·28
    · vs Spell: · · · ·25
    · vs Magic: · · · ·25
    Marked with a * is no fail on a 1 if required DC met

    Class and Feat Selection
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    Level Class · · · · · ·Feats
    1 · · Rogue(1)· · · · ·Standard: Point Blank Shot
    2 · · Rogue(2)· · · · ·
    3 · · Wizard(1) · · · ·Standard: Rapid Reload
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Metamagic: Extend Spell
    4 · · Wizard(2) · · · ·Dexterity: +1 Level up
    5 · · Wizard(3) · · · ·
    6 · · Rogue(3)· · · · ·Standard: Precision
    7 · · Rogue(4)· · · · ·
    8 · · Rogue(5)· · · · ·Dexterity: +1 Level up
    9 · · Rogue(6)· · · · ·Standard: Precise Shot
    10· · Rogue(7)· · · · ·
    11· · Rogue(8)· · · · ·
    12· · Rogue(9)· · · · ·Standard: Rapid Shot
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Intelligence: +1 Level up
    13· · Rogue(10) · · · ·Rogue Special Ability: Improved Evasion
    14· · Rogue(11) · · · ·
    15· · Rogue(12) · · · ·Standard: Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
    16· · Rogue(13) · · · ·Rogue Special Ability: Crippling Strike
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Intelligence: +1 Level up
    17· · Rogue(14) · · · ·
    18· · Rogue(15) · · · ·Standard: Improved Precise Shot
    19· · Rogue(16) · · · ·Rogue Special Ability: Defensive Roll
    20· · Rogue(17) · · · ·Intelligence: +1 Level up
    21· · Epic(1) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Empty Feat Slot
    22· · Epic(2) · · · · ·
    23· · Epic(3) · · · · ·
    24· · Epic(4) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Empty Feat Slot
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Intelligence: +1 Level up
    25· · Epic(5) · · · · ·
    26· · Epic(6) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Empty Feat Slot
    27· · Epic(7) · · · · ·Epic Feat: Empty Feat Slot
    28· · Epic(8) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Empty Feat Slot
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Intelligence: +1 Level up
    29· · Epic(9) · · · · ·Epic Destiny Feat: Empty Feat Slot
    30· · Epic(10)· · · · ·Epic Feat: Empty Feat Slot
    · · · · · · · · · · · ·Legendary: Empty Feat Slot

    Granted Feats
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    Slippery Mind
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    Active User Controlled Stances
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    Precision
    Improved Precise Shot
    Shroud of the Wraith

    Active Auto Controlled Stances
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    Unarmed
    Cloth Armor
    Centered
    True Neutral
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    Enhancements: 80 APs, Racial 1, Universal 1
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    Gnome - Points spent: 2
    1 Core ·(1) Perseverance I
    2 Tier1 (1) Weapon Training I
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    Inquisitive - Points spent: 41
    1 Core ·(1) Inquisitive
    2 Tier1 (2) Dual Shooter
    3 Tier1 (1) Eye for Accuracy
    4 Tier1 (1) Eye for Accuracy
    5 Tier1 (1) Eye for Accuracy
    6 Tier1 (2) Law on your side
    7 Core ·(1) Hit the Streets
    8 Tier2 (2) Crossbow Adept I
    9 Tier2 (2) Observation
    10 Tier2 (2) Improved Law
    11 Tier3 (2) Crossbow Adept II
    12 Tier3 (2) First Things First: Shoot First
    13 Tier3 (1) Improved Observation
    14 Tier3 (2) Ability Score I: Intelligence
    15 Tier4 (2) Crossbow Adept III
    16 Tier4 (1) What Later?: Ask Questions Later
    17 Tier4 (2) Inquisition Style: Martial Inquisition
    18 Tier4 (2) Greater Law
    19 Tier4 (2) Ability Score II: Intelligence
    20 Tier5 (2) No Holds Barred
    21 Tier5 (1) Diplomatic Immunity
    22 Tier5 (1) Inquisitor's Path: Optimistic
    23 Core ·(1) Mind Like Iron
    24 Core ·(1) True Seeing
    25 Core ·(1) Undaunted
    26 Tier1 (1) Conjure Bolts
    27 Tier1 (1) Conjure Bolts
    28 Core ·(1) Master Inquisitive
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    Mechanic - Points spent: 23
    1 Core ·(1) Arbalester
    2 Tier1 (2) Sharpshooter I
    3 Tier1 (1) Awareness
    4 Tier1 (1) Awareness
    5 Tier1 (1) Awareness
    6 Core ·(1) Tanglefoot
    7 Tier2 (2) Sharpshooter II
    8 Tier1 (1) Mechanics
    9 Core ·(1) Targeting Sights
    10 Tier3 (2) Sharpshooter III
    11 Tier3 (2) Ability I: +1 Intelligence
    12 Tier1 (1) Mechanics
    13 Tier1 (1) Mechanics
    14 Tier2 (1) Wand and Scroll Mastery
    15 Tier2 (1) Wand and Scroll Mastery
    16 Tier2 (1) Wand and Scroll Mastery
    17 Core ·(1) Improved Detection
    18 Tier4 (2) Sharpshooter IV
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    Harper Agent - Points spent: 7
    1 Core ·(1) Agent of Good I
    2 Tier1 (2) Strategic Combat I
    3 Tier1 (2) Harper Enchantment
    4 Core ·(2) Harper Training I: +1 Intelligence
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    Pale Master - Points spent: 6
    1 Core ·(1) Dark Reaping
    2 Tier1 (2) Deathless Vigor
    3 Tier1 (1) Negative Energy Conduit
    4 Tier1 (1) Negative Energy Conduit
    5 Core ·(1) Pale Shroud: Pale Master: Shroud of the Wraith
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    Thief-Acrobat - Points spent: 3
    1 Core ·(1) Staff Control
    2 Tier1 (2) Fast Movement
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    Weapon Damage
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    Melee Power:· 30
    Doublestrike: 0%
    Off-Hand attack Chance: 20%
    Off-Hand Doublestrike: 0%
    Fortification Bypass: 25%
    Dodge Bypass: 0%
    Helpless Damage bonus: 50%
    Ranged Power: 65
    Doubleshot Chance: 15%

    Sneak Attack Attack bonus: 0
    Sneak Attack Damage: 14d6+0


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    I've tinkered with a few of these wraith builds .... There are a couple ways to approach ...

    Take more wiz levels as well as a third class ...

    Thus Wiz/Rogue/Art for displacement, wraith ghost touch, better negative healing auras, runearms DR and imbues, spellsword imbues ... And once you get FOM either from equipment or a hire ... Sleet storm is great to get SA and CC against trash mobs etc.

    Something like 12/6/x for Wiz/Rogue to get INT to dmg, tensors, and that listed above. Only drawback is getting IPS late in the game.
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    I'm really bad at builds so im curious if getting IPS is extremely important if i'm just trying to rush to 20 on the hardcore server. My feats were kind of just there because it seemed like most ranged builds need them. Would it be easier and overall better to do 12/6/2 wiz/rogue/art?

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    how you gonna heal effectively a PM with 3 wiz levels? That is the question
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    The average undead multiclass goes for wizard 7 at least to get Death Aura and NEB. Too much of a PITA to keep yourself alive as undead without them. Also lets you take level 6 Pale Master core plus other useful spells.

    But if we're talking hardcore builds, I think you will want more wizard levels just to up the caster level of your spells. You won't have all the crutches from gear etc to prop you up.
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    I really just don't know how to properly do it. I usually use other peoples builds cause alot of this goes over my head when it comes to feats and stuff. Numbers confuse me. I can move it to 7 wizard in my build right now i think and still be fine i'll just have to play with it and hope it's still going to work out for me. If IPS ends up not being something i can snag i could trim down my dex stat instead and maybe get different feats.

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