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    Welp, made it to Level 7, then died on a trap in the final Shan-to-Kor quest, on Elite. I'd like to blame the fact that having these quests linked together made me zone out a bit by the time I made it to the last one. I should have quit when I was ahead, darn it.

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    Not dead yet, but I had a close call in Two Toed Tobias when I forgot the underwater lever was trapped... That got my heart racing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComicRelief View Post
    Hopefully they remembered to claim their reward before dying.

    As for me, first toon, Level 2, Rogue/Ranger in Korthos Wilderness area. Slipped off cliff but survived with -1 HP...and nothing to revive with so helplessly watched as stabilization rolls failed one after the other until *ding*. (Oy, "It's just to die from something as petty as 'slipping on tea'...".) I didn't bother to run the "Ol' Sully's Grog" quest, 'cuz, you know, rez cakes won't bring you back from death. However, the incapacitated pop-up also has a link to buy a rez cake with shards, so...if a rez cake can bring one back from incap, I'll not be making that mistake again!

    You still alive Grim? You should put up a blog post (as should I).
    This is a great little tip. Rez cakes work when you are incap? Who knew!

    Quote Originally Posted by Garix View Post
    Another one bites the dust. I had high(ish) hopes for this one. Lvl 5 (4/1 Wiz/Rog) incapacitated in WW part 2, Death aura still going but doing nothing when incapacitated apparently Then the final Lightning bolt from a Shamen finished me off.
    This doesn't seem right. I think the aura should still work when incap, but then again there's been some... oddities when standing back up, buffs lost ect. There's some weird stuff going on here. Sorry!
    edit: https://ddowiki.com/page/Unconscious But this isn't what happened to you, so even more mystery. So the wiki states: Palemasters in undead shroud forms instantly die at 0 hp, regardless of range of unconsciousness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinxx View Post
    I'm not dead yet (knock on wood) but I came really close when the whole group, including me, jumped off a cliff and I plummeted like a stone. Two members of the group cast feather fall but for some reason neither spell took hold on me. Needless to say, I took the ladders/stairs for the next few levels until I got my own FF item :P

    P.S. I am LOVING the hardcore server. Brings me back to the early days of DDO
    At low levels, the mass FF spell scales off of the casters level. So you get yourself FF, and 2 others? or so. I'd have to look it up. Yes, I've died this way before too. You see the circle of the spell, you see the feathers all around, you leap... https://ddowiki.com/page/Feather_Fall Says 1 per caster level. Heh, doesnt even mention self.

    Quote Originally Posted by HGM-Chi View Post
    Level 3 - In Dirk's Secret - Kobold shaman somehow damaged me 3 times with one lightning bolt. over 75 points of damage left me incapped and no one in the party could do anything other than watch me die.

    Currently level 4, and still alive.
    Heal and repair kits. I *think* you need one point in the respective heal/repair skills to use, I don't remember it's been so long. Target your incap party member and click on the heal icon you didn't remember to drag off your character sheet skill tab. The cure light wounds cloak clicky is great in a pinch for saving someone as well. https://ddowiki.com/page/Heal_(skill)
    So you need to roll a 20, and you lose a kit each time you try.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora1 View Post
    I thought, for almost 10 years now, that off to the sides you were safe from the lightning traps. Oh sure, you might get hit on your way trying to get under cover of the low ceiling side alcoves, but once in there I always thought it was safe. However this time I was actually standing well inside the alcove after having fought an undead or two, for several seconds, about to start heading out (already made it to the lever and was on my way out) when I got nailed by two lightning strikes in a row.
    I gave up and cheesed it. Did it two levels overlevel, got a wizard hire from the market. Told him to use the runes which he did (taking a hit for half hp on the first one). He got the second rune, but then couldn't get the third because he tries to run directly to it, and it's unreachable that way. So I told him to pull the lever, then while he was running I told him to use the rune. So of course he ran over, pulled the lever, and then ignored the rune. But then I realized that was that. (mattress man)
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    I got taken out by a champ mephit with a volley of magic missiles. Forgot to cast nightshield. Bye bye 8th lvl.

    Have to say the only way I've been taken out is by champs. Champs make it too difficult to judge a quests difficulty. And have to say, hardcore is just highlighting how difficult it is for new players -especially with champs, they should be an optional level of difficulty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarrith_dourden View Post
    Champs make it too difficult to judge a quests difficulty. And have to say, hardcore is just highlighting how difficult it is for new players -especially with champs, they should be an optional level of difficulty.
    Yes, not having 20, 30, or more past lives and a bunch of low level twink gear is a game changer even for the most veteran players. Especially when death is permanent.

    It's easy to say a skilled first lifer with minimal gear can contribute just fine in low-mid reaper quests when all the other players are running characters with gear and past lives and a couple of deaths is no big deal. But when everyone in the party is a first lifer with random loot gen gear and there are no raise deads/res shriines/cakes - well it's a whole different story and maybe will help vets sympathize a little more with new players back on the regular servers.
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    My second character died. I was level 7, holding 8. I died on the trapped corridor in the 1st part of Deleras...I thought there was just one trap, but as I tried to run past it the next two went off and I was dead. Boo. My next character will be able to do traps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarrith_dourden View Post
    I got taken out by a champ mephit with a volley of magic missiles. Forgot to cast nightshield. Bye bye 8th lvl.

    Have to say the only way I've been taken out is by champs. Champs make it too difficult to judge a quests difficulty. And have to say, hardcore is just highlighting how difficult it is for new players -especially with champs, they should be an optional level of difficulty.
    Did the word Elite change it's definition? There are no champs on normal, what makes it elite if you remove anything and everything that is elite? Why not just award the favor and experience when getting the quest to avoid any challenge at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DANTEIL View Post
    Welp, made it to Level 7, then died on a trap in the final Shan-to-Kor quest, on Elite. I'd like to blame the fact that having these quests linked together made me zone out a bit by the time I made it to the last one. I should have quit when I was ahead, darn it.
    You can do these at different levels, when you finish the first one, finish out and go back later. You don't have to do them all in a row. The same holds true with water works, tangleroot, sorrowdusk etc.
    Choler 30 Brd 5PLs | Enmity 30 Clr | Exasperate 30 Sor | Ferocity 30Pal 13PLs | Furyous 30Inq Heroic/Epic Completionist 82PLs | Hiddin 20Mnk 2PL | Infuryated 30War 6PL | Retributive 20Dru 2PL | Vehemence 30Rog Completionist 35PLs | Vehement 10Pal 3Mnk 1Rog | Vexate 30Wiz Heroic/Epic Completionist 49PLs | Violence 30Clr Heroic/Epic/Racial Completionist 94PLs

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    Quote Originally Posted by FURYous View Post
    Did the word Elite change it's definition? There are no champs on normal, what makes it elite if you remove anything and everything that is elite? Why not just award the favor and experience when getting the quest to avoid any challenge at all?
    To be fair, veteran players didn't have to deal with champs when they first joined the game. New players should have the option of not having to deal with them as well unless they want to. As I said, it should be an optional level of difficulty, possibly one that can be selected when entering a dungeon by the leader.
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    Pulled the lever to open the first hidden door (above some crates)
    Instantly take 80 falling damage and die without moving an inch.

    Fun times.

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    2 toons made it to #1 rxp leader board.

    1st one died to famine reaper frost lance and carnage hit at same time.

    2nd one died to black n blue dragon dot (after the quest was over QQ)
    Triple All

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarrith_dourden View Post
    To be fair, veteran players didn't have to deal with champs when they first joined the game. New players should have the option of not having to deal with them as well unless they want to. As I said, it should be an optional level of difficulty, possibly one that can be selected when entering a dungeon by the leader.
    It 100% is an "optional level of difficulty" that "can be selected when entering a dungeon by the leader". It's called Elite, if you don't want champs, select the champ free option.

    Elite:
    1. the best of a class
    2. a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group
    3. the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.
    4. The best or most skilled members of a group
    5. those people or organizations that are considered the best or most powerful compared to others of a similar type



    Five different dictionaries seem to indicate a similar trend in the meaning of this word
    Choler 30 Brd 5PLs | Enmity 30 Clr | Exasperate 30 Sor | Ferocity 30Pal 13PLs | Furyous 30Inq Heroic/Epic Completionist 82PLs | Hiddin 20Mnk 2PL | Infuryated 30War 6PL | Retributive 20Dru 2PL | Vehemence 30Rog Completionist 35PLs | Vehement 10Pal 3Mnk 1Rog | Vexate 30Wiz Heroic/Epic Completionist 49PLs | Violence 30Clr Heroic/Epic/Racial Completionist 94PLs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorachtin View Post
    2 toons made it to #1 rxp leader board.

    1st one died to famine reaper frost lance and carnage hit at same time.

    2nd one died to black n blue dragon dot (after the quest was over QQ)
    did you get any of the rewards? 10RP or 1750 favor? Inquiring minds want to know!
    Choler 30 Brd 5PLs | Enmity 30 Clr | Exasperate 30 Sor | Ferocity 30Pal 13PLs | Furyous 30Inq Heroic/Epic Completionist 82PLs | Hiddin 20Mnk 2PL | Infuryated 30War 6PL | Retributive 20Dru 2PL | Vehemence 30Rog Completionist 35PLs | Vehement 10Pal 3Mnk 1Rog | Vexate 30Wiz Heroic/Epic Completionist 49PLs | Violence 30Clr Heroic/Epic/Racial Completionist 94PLs

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    Quote Originally Posted by FURYous View Post
    did you get any of the rewards? 10RP or 1750 favor? Inquiring minds want to know!
    1750 favor eyes

    I was still 39k short of the 100k needed for 10 rp

    next life
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    Ghallanda forever.

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    Recovering the Lost Tomb on my level 4 Druid. That room with the lightning...on elite. Yeah my mistake stepped into the room to find the first intel rune and ... bam! Incapped... then bam.. dead!

    Fun though!

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    Welp, level 6 with 7 banked and I decided it would be a good idea to re-run Recovering the Lost Tome on Elite as we had run it on Hard previously. Blasted by the lightning room!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TorGrimorde View Post
    Welp, level 6 with 7 banked and I decided it would be a good idea to re-run Recovering the Lost Tome on Elite as we had run it on Hard previously. Blasted by the lightning room!
    NOOOOOOOOoooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FURYous View Post
    It 100% is an "optional level of difficulty" that "can be selected when entering a dungeon by the leader". It's called Elite, if you don't want champs, select the champ free option.

    Elite:
    1. the best of a class
    2. a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group
    3. the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.
    4. The best or most skilled members of a group
    5. those people or organizations that are considered the best or most powerful compared to others of a similar type



    Five different dictionaries seem to indicate a similar trend in the meaning of this word
    The only non-champ level of difficulty you can select is Casual or Normal.

    He is right too, elite did not include champs a few years ago (2014), so many veterans obtained multiple past lives and twink gear before ever having to face them.

    His original point is also well taken, due to the random nature of champions spawning it is hard to gauge how difficult a quest will be, especially on elite. You get 1-4 champs, maybe not even the tough ones, and it's difficulty is miles different than if 25 of them spawn, especially mini bosses that become champs.

    If there are no champs, you know exactly how hard the quest will be, since it will be exactly the same as the last time you ran it.

    I'm fine with things as they are, but I can't disagree with his observation.
    My take on "the grind": https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6220972

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indubitably View Post
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    Pulled the lever to open the first hidden door (above some crates)
    Instantly take 80 falling damage and die without moving an inch.

    Fun times.
    The Falling Bug™.

    As nefarious as the Ladder Bug™ - just deadlier.


    But yeah, that really sucks.



    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora1 View Post
    .... You get 1-4 champs, maybe not even the tough ones, and it's difficulty is miles different than if 25 of them spawn, especially mini bosses that become champs.

    If there are no champs, you know exactly how hard the quest will be, since it will be exactly the same as the last time you ran it.

    I'm fine with things as they are, but I can't disagree with his observation.
    We're digressing, but I can turn this one into another "I almost..." moment.

    Elite Kobold Assault. Just me, my mechno-pup, faithful Elieri, and a helper FvS hireling, Storm. I have my crew at the main gate taking care of business while I'm at the back strafing/bombing the attackers. Suddenly a pack of 3 Champs roll in the gate, mow down my crew like they were weeds and charged right at me!

    I imagine the surviving Kobolds are still cleaning up the stain I left as I ran screaming for the exit door! ...and my cat looked at me funny.
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    My 1st death i was near level 5 Druid Bear 160 HP 50 PRR MRR. Soloing R1 got blind sided by a Carnage Reaper. Healing Hands didnt work for some reason and now that character is a Bear Rug haha!

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