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    Default 1 Fighter 14 Paladin ideas for end game salvaging

    My room mate is new to video games and trying to bring her up into an legendary end game static group. She made a PDK paladin about 6 months ago and got a +8 supreme tome so she's stuck with it. She didn't really play but coming back and now would prefer to be INQ. She has a lesser heart for a respecc at 20, so she could salvage if the the 1/14 split is not already too late. I'm thinking a CHA to damage, 1/2 INT modifier to damage diplo INQ with 5 last 5 levels of rogue could do alright. She would have evasion to go with the light armor sets, really good saves from CHA pally based, Holy Sword spell, throwing out diplo automatically, trapping, could probably hang ok once she has the end game gear.

    Does this seem reasonable? Better ideas for planning this toon for end game sharn, ravenloft, etc?
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    On second thought, don't think you can swing ranged CHA damage on a pally, but can go INT with CHA enough for saves (maybe).
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    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...mage-modifiers <---- this table seems up to date.
    Since crossbows don't have any built-in options for stat based damage, she will either need 6 rogue levels or the harper tree (not f2p!) for that.

    Holy sword spell isn't required because inq has the same crit boosts passively in 4th core.

    In case of respeccing, don't forget about having enough dex! Starting with 13, will have 19 dex for IPS on lv15 and 21 on lv22 for combat archery (taken at 24 obviously).

    Skill points for trapping can be problematic if she only starts taking rogue at 16... maybe a +1 heart for an early rogue level to unlock the skills to train?
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    I would probably start with 13 dex, 17 int, 16 con and 12 charisma.
    This allows IPS at 15.
    Feats:
    Point Blank Shot, Rapid Shot, Precision
    Precise Shot
    Insightful Reflexes
    Improved Critical: Ranged
    Rapid Reload
    Improved Precise Shot
    FREE

    Enhancements:
    41 inquisitive
    12 harper
    6+ defensive stance+LOH
    some in mechanic for sneak attack and such.
    Though 22 in Sacred Defender for run speed and 4th core would be nice as well. Quickened Resurrection is nice.

    Skills should probably still work out even starting late. Remember UMD is less important because paladins can scroll Raise Dead for free.

    Could also work with Artificer in Heavy Armor, with +20% hp from sacred stance; however Evasion is nice and end game ranged set does not include heavy armor.

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    Unless your friend has Harper, they're going to want Rogue 6 for (free) Int-to-Damage (and even with, it saves several AP on a tight budget). With that plus the starting Fighter level, that scratches off any Level 4 Pali spells, so just write those off and embrace the reality of it. It's hardly a dealbreaker, Inquisitive by itself will carry the day.

    Space the Rogue levels out to optimize trapping skills (you're not "leveling", so you only care about the final product), planning that out carefully w/ a character planner. (Max Spot, Search, DD, and UMD, mimimal Locks, other stuff only if it comes easy.)

    Take a 2nd (or even 4th?) Level of Fighter if you want the Feats. Losing some Lvl III spells is no big deal.

    This is a salvaged build, it may not be optimal. But the above might be pretty good.

    (Oh - this link's to a repeater build, but the basic concept is the same: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5618191

    With those tomes, only 13 Dex, and I'd drop Con to 14 and pump Cha if you want that Saving Throw action.)

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    I change my mind, have her make whatever she wants.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliphant View Post
    She made a PDK paladin... +8 supreme tome so she's stuck with it.... now would prefer to be INQ... has a lesser heart for a respec at 20, so she could salvage if the the 1/14 split is not already too late...
    Derp - misread. Fighter 1/Pali 14 leaves only 5 levels to play with, and only a LESSER HoW for the salvage operation. Hrmmm...

    The "best" thing to do would be to power-level up to 30, reincarnate, and do it right - but she might not love that sort of long-term-goal slog (even for the Pali HAmp and the PDK PRR.)

    I'm not sure that 5 final rogue levels will solve much, or "enough".

    Lemme think about it... :/

    (Q - If she (or someone) just bought Sharn (for the Inquisitive tree), and (at some point) 5745 DP for a +8 Supreme Ability Tome, could that same someone be willing to spring for 1395 (or 1595 DP) for a +3 (or +5) Heart of Wood? THAT would solve things nicely!)

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    +20 hearts are on sale in the ddo store right now, if you want to completely revamp.

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    Yep, "only" 1621 DP, but that's a steal if that's what you wanted. You could go many, MANY directions w/ that (including losing the Fighter level entirely!).

    But radio silence from the OP for the last week - several questions on the board. Maybe they solved their problem, maybe gave up, maybe just not time critical. <shrug>

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    Belated thanks, folks! Roomie is still not engaged with the game, real life called. I need to check her account to see if she has Harper. I think 14 pally/1 Fighter /5 Rogue split could work. Maxing out what's left on rogue seems a good trade off for much needed dps. She can max out any easy/cheap opportunities for CHA gear, go Insightful Reflexes feat and rock the Wallwatch light armor with good reflex for a first life. Main hope for this salvage based on: Inq is fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliphant View Post
    Belated thanks, folks! Roomie is still not engaged with the game, real life called. I need to check her account to see if she has Harper. I think 14 pally/1 Fighter /5 Rogue split could work. Maxing out what's left on rogue seems a good trade off for much needed dps. She can max out any easy/cheap opportunities for CHA gear, go Insightful Reflexes feat and rock the Wallwatch light armor with good reflex for a first life. Main hope for this salvage based on: Inq is fun!
    if she's busy with life for a week or two and she lets you onto her acc anyways, lvl her to 20, TR her into a class appropriate iconic if she has that. shadarkai or deep gnome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eryhn View Post
    if she's busy with life for a week or two and she lets you onto her acc anyways, lvl her to 20, TR her into a class appropriate iconic if she has that. shadarkai or deep gnome?
    Iconics start with 15 levels, so they have to level to 30 to get out of that iconic life, cant use a Heroic TR.
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