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    What's your thoughts on Wood Elf using ToS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaviMOC View Post
    What's your thoughts on Wood Elf using ToS?
    Hey! Mmmmm... meh I think Tail can just be a good option for FB barb.
    Regarding paladin, Tremor wins. Silvanus +2 range is too strong.

    I’m actually playing a pdk pally cha based in fatesinger, using Reflection of Blackrazor and so far I’m really happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaviMOC View Post
    What's your thoughts on Wood Elf using ToS?
    Tried it...the best part was Wood Elf's undercut hair style...that was it. Like you, I also thought ToS (among high-end G-Swords) could be taken advantage of by Welf, but it just doesn't go at it like a BF or Horc...or even Aasimir. That and there just really are not any dope falchions atm...not sure there ever was...
    Even tried 2WF Welf...which lost some synergy with Pally's new calling.

    But that Hair!
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    Thats sad. I just want to fit that Favored Falchion weapon from Wood elf somewhere. Will try FvS warsoul than. I know it gonna be bad too. lol
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    If you doing Wood Elf pl's you could try a wood elf pure pala bow build!? :P

    Kinda curious how Smite and Holy Retribution works on ranged + you get access to the underperforming AA tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohagi View Post
    If you doing Wood Elf pl's you could try a wood elf pure pala bow build!? :P

    Kinda curious how Smite and Holy Retribution works on ranged + you get access to the underperforming AA tree.
    Thats a new option, there's actually good options for a Wood Elf pl. That toon in question is themed over 2handed weapons with no race/class restrictions but exploring different ways than the classic pally/barb/fighter builds such as falchion favored wood elf. Last life it was a A sorc EK and it was actually very nice but very squishy. Never seen a better/stronger NUKE than a Sorc Eldrich Tempest. But yeah, i need to check out now the bowman pally on my ranged toon too =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaviMOC View Post
    Thats a new option, there's actually good options for a Wood Elf pl. That toon in question is themed over 2handed weapons with no race/class restrictions but exploring different ways than the classic pally/barb/fighter builds such as falchion favored wood elf. Last life it was a A sorc EK and it was actually very nice but very squishy. Never seen a better/stronger NUKE than a Sorc Eldrich Tempest. But yeah, i need to check out now the bowman pally on my ranged toon too =)
    any chance u cant take a pick of the enhancement tree for more a view stance?

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    I am planning to do a PDK Silvanus, so using Maul. Some questions:

    How is the new pally running a Crusader doing vs LD/Fury for THF? What works for pally on Fury if I leave my defensive stance on? What I mean is what can I use without having to be raged?

    Also, does Boulder Might is worth as twist? I never see people recommending it.

    And in doubt between more ST with Malicious/Wild weapons or good old Sense Weakness

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpbtoc View Post
    I am planning to do a PDK Silvanus, so using Maul. Some questions:

    How is the new pally running a Crusader doing vs LD/Fury for THF? What works for pally on Fury if I leave my defensive stance on? What I mean is what can I use without having to be raged?

    Also, does Boulder Might is worth as twist? I never see people recommending it.

    And in doubt between more ST with Malicious/Wild weapons or good old Sense Weakness

    Adrenaline, the epic moment, and the scream don't work when you're in stance. You can click the abilities and they act like they are doing something, but you don't get the extra damage. Sense Weakness works. Fury and Exalted Smite or Confront any Foe is nice. You have to balance the offense vs defense for your particular situation.


    Anything helpless will go down fast regardless, especially in Dread.

    I'm a fan of Martial Hymn for a bit of extra zing while unloading Confront any Foe as well as the defensive benefits. You have enough cleaves from KoTC and either Dread or Crusader that you'll be OK. If you can squeeze in the extra strikethrough that's good too.


    Your exact loadout depends on your circumstances. If you have really solid CC+Tank+Healing, Dread is hard to beat in damage output while under boost.

    Crusader helps to fill in gaps on healing, has good DPS, and a single person running it amps up the entire party DPS. It's also an excellent option if you have trouble maintaining Blitz for whatever reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobril View Post
    Adrenaline, the epic moment, and the scream don't work when you're in stance. You can click the abilities and they act like they are doing something, but you don't get the extra damage. Sense Weakness works. Fury and Exalted Smite or Confront any Foe is nice. You have to balance the offense vs defense for your particular situation.


    Anything helpless will go down fast regardless, especially in Dread.

    I'm a fan of Martial Hymn for a bit of extra zing while unloading Confront any Foe as well as the defensive benefits. You have enough cleaves from KoTC and either Dread or Crusader that you'll be OK. If you can squeeze in the extra strikethrough that's good too.


    Your exact loadout depends on your circumstances. If you have really solid CC+Tank+Healing, Dread is hard to beat in damage output while under boost.

    Crusader helps to fill in gaps on healing, has good DPS, and a single person running it amps up the entire party DPS. It's also an excellent option if you have trouble maintaining Blitz for whatever reason.

    What about PA vs Precision for a Silvanus, since crit is 15-20?

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    Any suggests on what to swap around if you don't have a circle of malevolence

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrian69 View Post
    Any suggests on what to swap around if you don't have a circle of malevolence

    More or less optimal loadouts for STR and CHA here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...r-Racial-Lives

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpbtoc View Post
    What about PA vs Precision for a Silvanus, since crit is 15-20?

    I waffle on this quite a bit...it almost really depends on your comp as well as your amount of crit bypass if you don't have precision.

    To-hit isn't a concern on the PDK since you should have 200+ even without precision, so it's just a matter of critting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrian69 View Post
    Any suggests on what to swap around if you don't have a circle of malevolence
    There are a few variants you can work around, rarely have I seen anyone else still combine the RL-set with the mandatory family-set. Works really good on paladin. if you are on discord I can show a picture of my inq, I wear close to same gear-setup on my clr/brb and it would be perfect for paladin. No Malevolence, I do believe I even fitted in litany at most times... (that is another huge boost of pure dps!)

    I don´t have the bloodrage-trinket on my character so that opens up a bit of gear variety... (I´d prolly use the trinket If I had it just for d-fence.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LavidDynch View Post
    There are a few variants you can work around, rarely have I seen anyone else still combine the RL-set with the mandatory family-set. Works really good on paladin. if you are on discord I can show a picture of my inq, I wear close to same gear-setup on my clr/brb and it would be perfect for paladin. No Malevolence, I do believe I even fitted in litany at most times... (that is another huge boost of pure dps!)

    I don´t have the bloodrage-trinket on my character so that opens up a bit of gear variety... (I´d prolly use the trinket If I had it just for d-fence.)
    Right now I am using

    Umbral SOul
    Umber Brim
    Family Sigil
    Hammer Fist

    Bloodrage Trinket
    mantle of fury
    Cursebane Ring
    Chord of Reprisal until I finish my slaver belt sometime this week.
    Soft Soul Slippers
    Celestial Ruby
    precision lenses
    Brand of Malok.

    All the good augments and +8 to wisdom/dex. Haven't bothered stating Ruby Ring yet, but my DPS and defenses are good enough. I can run R4s easy enough solo, but start struggling with many quests in R5 where I normally wouldn't on my Tempest. I just feel it could be better and I can't think of it other than matching this. I looked at other's ideas. Only liked 1 so far, but I am not flesh and blood. I tried, but found I preferred wood and oil better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobril View Post
    I waffle on this quite a bit...it almost really depends on your comp as well as your amount of crit bypass if you don't have precision.

    To-hit isn't a concern on the PDK since you should have 200+ even without precision, so it's just a matter of critting.
    Go precision with the maul. More crits make up for the loss of damage, but it's probably a wash over a long encounter. Higher base damage would only be useful on certain bosses and mob types unless you're breaking 145% fort bypass, and I have a feeling not many paladins are

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrian69 View Post
    Go precision with the maul. More crits make up for the loss of damage, but it's probably a wash over a long encounter. Higher base damage would only be useful on certain bosses and mob types unless you're breaking 145% fort bypass, and I have a feeling not many paladins are
    tons of debuffs available in this game,, even if twf isnt as pop as what it used to be there might a de-buffer out there... I´d go straight dmg path as thf 100%.

    edit: we do not have rage timer in ddo afaik,
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    Default Reaper Endgame THF Paladin - U45 Update

    I played mostly thf pally since U45 and thf major changes.
    Nowadays, thf pally is no longer a flavor build but an undisputed top tier and I’m having a lot of fun with it.
    Well... I’m having fun despite the lag at least XD

    Pure pally is so good now and thf is super strong after the changes. I’m happy to share the build I’m playing and some considerations on what I think is right now the most solid melee for r10 endgame.

    PDK Pally 20 Fatesinger, Charisma based

    PDK is hands down the best race: strikethrough, some hamp, For Cormyr and Cormyrean Knight Training. Also, cha to hit and dmg with greatswords makes PDK the only viable option for this build.

    There are some reasons why I chose cha based gs pally vs the 'standard' str based maul pally, even if Constellation and Reflection of Blackrazor are junk compared to Silvanus Tremor.

    Cha advantages are:
    - more turn charges for Confront any Foe
    - better defenses (31 points in SaD, I used Falconry on str pally)
    - better lay on hands
    - higher Intimidate
    However, the most important reason is: better tactics!
    A cha based pally using CKT and Divine Might can reach sky high tactics dcs. Ofc having 165 or more dc on Dire charge is a waste, but having 135 dc on Stunning blow and Trip is amazing for high fort content. Stunning blow and trip are str based, so Strength is not a dump stat.

    Enhancements:
    Pretty straightforward. Pdk , KotC, SaD...



    Feats: thf line, power attack, ic, completionist, oc, arborea. I took extra turning and wizard pl.
    Wizard pl can be handy vs reds if your group is lacking capable debuffers. Swap to 2x lgs and cast mm to stack dust and ooze or ash (Fatesinger provides quicken).

    ED. I’m in love with the Fatesinger... this destiny is so good and a perfect fit for a cha based pally.
    I took First Harmonic Chord, Bound & Grim Fate, Martial Hymn, Quicken, Bladesong and Turn the Tide. Cha the rest.
    Twist: in quest usually I twist Sense weakness, Meld, Confront any Foe, Running with Wind and Dance of Flowers.

    Here’s a screenshot of my stats in reaper with Turn the tide on (but without Tenser scrolled). I have all the PLs and all the reaper trees filled.



    Weapon stats:



    My gear setup:
    Helm Legendary Executioner's Helm (Insightful Deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Quality Combat Mastery +4)
    Goggles Legendary Collective Sight (Charisma +21, Insightful Charisma +10, Quality Resistance +4, +20 Quality MRR)
    Necklace The Family’s Blessing (Quality Assassinate +2, Insightful Armor-Piercing - 16%, Deadly +17, Doublestrike 24%)
    Trinket Bloodrage Chrism (Competence Healing Amplification +83, Calamitous Blows, Bloodrage Defense, Rune-fueled Warding, Unnatural)
    Armor Legendary Enforcer's Coat (+15 Enhancement Bonus, Fortification +214%, Physical Sheltering +54, Competence Healing Amplification +85, Hit Points +81)
    Cloak Silver Dragonscale Capelet (Insightful Strength +10, Dodge +21%, Insightful Sheltering +28, Shining Silver Scales)
    Wrist Brand of Kalok Shash (Strength +22, Quality Accuracy +8, Quality Deadly +5, Fire Absorption 53%)
    Belt SL (Sheltering +45, Armor Piercing +28, Vertigo +20, Quality Charisma +4)
    Ring Legendary Celestial Sapphire Ring (Constitution +21, Improved Deception, Dodge +21%, Profane Well Rounded +2)
    Ring Legendary Celestial Ruby Ring (Dexterity +21, Stunning +23, Accuracy +33, Ghostly)
    Gloves Legendary Hammerfist (Insightful Doublestrike 11%, Cannith Combat Infusion, Seeker 21, Insightful Deadly +8)
    Boots SL (Wisdom +17, Deception +14, Shatter +20, Quality Constitution +4)

    For a while I used thth helm with ins str and Piston boots on my setup, then I changed my mind... I really like this setup, even if I dont have parrying and ins con 10 anymore.
    Best gear is also based on melee power on items you have...

    Weapons and filigrees:
    I use 3 main weapons: Constellation, Reflection of Blackrazor and Tremor (Silvanus is my god and I have some str to swing it).
    Full range of one handed lgs (dust, ooze, ash, affirmation, salt, ice), lgs affirmation + hope is the swap for cw spells.
    These days I really struggle to swap weapons in quest... When I do that I often cause my whole party to freeze in lag. That’s really annoying and I feel like a noob, but this build is probably one of the best options you have if you need to play without weapon swaps. A full stacked Reflection is not that bad, and you can put a “swap-impaired” fili setup on it featuring sanctified fervor. Put a final burial turn undead charges on weapon and artifact if you want more Confront any Foe. I got 74 charges per rest.
    Constellation and Tremor with Prowess and Shattered device on, and Fervor on Relfection is the setup I'm using when I'm able to swap weapons.

    Feel free to ask for more informations
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilga1 View Post
    Feel free to ask for more informations
    By a chance, are you the Influencer of Cannith?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balordo View Post
    By a chance, are you the Influencer of Cannith?
    I dont think so, but I'm not a bad person either... XD
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