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    I am looking for advice on sorc end game gear - with a focus of instakill/cc and cold damage on the side (for THTH).

    I have a 5 piece slavers set currenly on a warlock alt thats changing to a sorc but I was hoping to instead use the Flamecleansed set from Sharn using the Thiefling's ability to use fire spell power for cold spells but I am having a hard time fitting everything I would like.

    I would like to fit in all these effects (probably a bit too ambitious) but I am failing miserably:

    Cha, I Cha, Q Cha, E Cha
    Wis, I Wis, Q Wis (Mass Frog)
    Con, I Con, Q Con
    Some dex for reflex saves
    Profane +2 Stats
    Resist (or all 3 seperate resists), I Resist / Parry, Spell Saves
    SF, ISF, QSF, PSF (the ring)
    Spell Pen, I Spell Pen, Q Spell Pen
    False Life, Hamp, Wizardry, Ghostly
    Fort, Phys Shelter, Magic Shelter, I Shelter
    Cold spell crit.
    The 202 spell power belt
    LGS affirmation proc

    I realise I likely have to make some tough compromised - which I am looking for ideas on.
    I dont have the +2 profane stats gloves on this char - only on my main - so those are not really an option, unfortunately.

    Any advice is very welcome - in particular listings of full item setups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    I am looking for advice on sorc end game gear - with a focus of instakill/cc and cold damage on the side (for THTH).

    I have a 5 piece slavers set currenly on a warlock alt thats changing to a sorc but I was hoping to instead use the Flamecleansed set from Sharn using the Thiefling's ability to use fire spell power for cold spells but I am having a hard time fitting everything I would like.

    I would like to fit in all these effects (probably a bit too ambitious) but I am failing miserably:

    Cha, I Cha, Q Cha, E Cha
    Wis, I Wis, Q Wis (Mass Frog)
    Con, I Con, Q Con
    Some dex for reflex saves
    Profane +2 Stats
    Resist (or all 3 seperate resists), I Resist / Parry, Spell Saves
    SF, ISF, QSF, PSF (the ring)
    Spell Pen, I Spell Pen, Q Spell Pen
    False Life, Hamp, Wizardry, Ghostly
    Fort, Phys Shelter, Magic Shelter, I Shelter
    Cold spell crit.
    The 202 spell power belt
    LGS affirmation proc

    I realise I likely have to make some tough compromised - which I am looking for ideas on.
    I dont have the +2 profane stats gloves on this char - only on my main - so those are not really an option, unfortunately.

    Any advice is very welcome - in particular listings of full item setups.
    Why not using esoteric set? Good for this Case..

    Profane you get via celestial Sapphire ring.

    Charisma You can get at the charisma necklace artifact

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    Copied from strimtom, coz large overlap with what i use:


    Helm Arcsteel Brim
    Necklace Sigil of Regalport
    Trinket Five rings - Wisdom 17, saves 14, ???, CHA 4
    Cloak Hallowed Trail
    Belt Burnscar Sash
    Ring1 Shattered Onyx
    Ring2 Clouded dreams => Sapphire
    Gloves Blue scale gauntlets
    Boots LGS Fire
    Bracers Castigators
    Armor Blessed Vestments
    Goggles Collective Sight - Con 22, ins con 10
    Weapon Wild flame => Cold stick from the same place
    Shield Giants platter => Nightmothers or LGS 3POS
    Augments striding 30%, +1 globe, +2 luck
    Filigree: 4 Ottos, 4 Eye of the Beholder, +2 Charisma, and 2x +1 charisma

    I run with cha skills LGS 90% of the time for. and only swap to LGS crit item rarely.

    PS: I run with a little less con and more wis, usually where the extra ~120hp would save me I just blame my teammates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mpareto View Post
    Why not using esoteric set? Good for this Case..

    Profane you get via celestial Sapphire ring.

    Charisma You can get at the charisma necklace artifact
    The low MRR on Esoteric scares me. Not least in THTH which is what I am building for atm (its a raid alt, my main is on the hamster wheel).
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    Quote Originally Posted by janave View Post
    Copied from strimtom, coz large overlap with what i use:


    Helm Arcsteel Brim
    Necklace Sigil of Regalport
    Trinket Five rings - Wisdom 17, saves 14, ???, CHA 4
    Cloak Hallowed Trail
    Belt Burnscar Sash
    Ring1 Shattered Onyx
    Ring2 Clouded dreams => Sapphire
    Gloves Blue scale gauntlets
    Boots LGS Fire
    Bracers Castigators
    Armor Blessed Vestments
    Goggles Collective Sight - Con 22, ins con 10
    Weapon Wild flame => Cold stick from the same place
    Shield Giants platter => Nightmothers or LGS 3POS
    Augments striding 30%, +1 globe, +2 luck
    Filigree: 4 Ottos, 4 Eye of the Beholder, +2 Charisma, and 2x +1 charisma

    I run with cha skills LGS 90% of the time for. and only swap to LGS crit item rarely.

    PS: I run with a little less con and more wis, usually where the extra ~120hp would save me I just blame my teammates.
    Thanks, I will take a closer look at this setup. Unfortunately, I dont have the Blue Scale gloves on this alt as mentioned. That would indeed make things simpler.

    What are your hp like unbuffed out of Reaper mode?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    Thanks, I will take a closer look at this setup. Unfortunately, I dont have the Blue Scale gloves on this alt as mentioned. That would indeed make things simpler.

    What are your hp like unbuffed out of Reaper mode?
    Sapphire ring gives your profane stats, so dont need the gloves afaik. (Edit: I use the DoJ gloves)

    Pre pots and reaper HP is 1200 in EA. Missing vitality, ins con (usually potting), and excCon+1 (no globe). Party buffed, potted etc ~1350.

    I dont have a lot of reaper points yet. Eventually cores will add another 100-130 to this number. I could dump 1 CHA and 1DC for the 5% hps in falconry, but so far I havent found that I need it, and 5% on hovering ~1.2k is ~60hp.

    Generally speaking these numbers are rarely making a difference in r6-r7s, I can surely blame my tank and dps guys if i end up dying a lot . Or curse myself for trying to be "too helpful" when zerging into softly cc-d groups.

    I use intimidate which seems kinda counter productive on a sorcerer but I consider it a really great cc option for some mob types, it can also help driving mobs into aoe cc and debuffs. I would use bluff much more if it wasnt so broken, actually I think untrained bluff is somewhat more helpful. And diplo is pure gold on higher reaper.

    Augments: I slot many the Gianthold ones. +2 DC, with preference order
    Evoc, Enchant, Transmutation, Necro, Conjuration


    For THTH US is better, the saves arent terribly high on normal, maybe even passable on hard. Buffed hp in sentinel is close to 2k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    The low MRR on Esoteric scares me. Not least in THTH which is what I am building for atm (its a raid alt, my main is on the hamster wheel).
    Yeah. Everyone noticed a signifcant drop on mrr while updating to sharn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    Cha, I Cha, Q Cha, E Cha
    Like in this ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cha-cha-cha_(dance)
    "Archbishop Dryden wants to talk to you to tapper this dale."
    "Archbishop Dryden wants to talk to you to tap on this dale."
    "Archbishop Dryden wants to talk to you to tap on this tale."
    English is not my first language - misinterpretations galore !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alrik_Fassbauer View Post
    I used to dance a reasonable cha-cha-cha with my wife but my/our skills have since waned unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janave View Post
    Sapphire ring gives your profane stats, so dont need the gloves afaik. (Edit: I use the DoJ gloves)

    Pre pots and reaper HP is 1200 in EA. Missing vitality, ins con (usually potting), and excCon+1 (no globe). Party buffed, potted etc ~1350.

    I dont have a lot of reaper points yet. Eventually cores will add another 100-130 to this number. I could dump 1 CHA and 1DC for the 5% hps in falconry, but so far I havent found that I need it, and 5% on hovering ~1.2k is ~60hp.

    Generally speaking these numbers are rarely making a difference in r6-r7s, I can surely blame my tank and dps guys if i end up dying a lot . Or curse myself for trying to be "too helpful" when zerging into softly cc-d groups.

    I use intimidate which seems kinda counter productive on a sorcerer but I consider it a really great cc option for some mob types, it can also help driving mobs into aoe cc and debuffs. I would use bluff much more if it wasnt so broken, actually I think untrained bluff is somewhat more helpful. And diplo is pure gold on higher reaper.

    Augments: I slot many the Gianthold ones. +2 DC, with preference order
    Evoc, Enchant, Transmutation, Necro, Conjuration

    For THTH US is better, the saves arent terribly high on normal, maybe even passable on hard. Buffed hp in sentinel is close to 2k.
    Thanks, I will try US for THTH.

    Whats your DC / spell power / spell crit with this setup?

    For augments I use all the +2 DC, +2 Good Luck, Masters Gift, Globe, +2 Festive Wis for Mass Frog, Draconic Soul Gem with False Life, Vitality, Fear Immunity and Blindness Immunity sometimes being used depending on exact gear, How I wish they would upgrade the other augments though to make gearing more flexible (say +12 resist augment instead of only +8).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikarddo View Post
    Thanks, I will try US for THTH.

    Whats your DC / spell power / spell crit with this setup?

    For augments I use all the +2 DC, +2 Good Luck, Masters Gift, Globe, +2 Festive Wis for Mass Frog, Draconic Soul Gem with False Life, Vitality, Fear Immunity and Blindness Immunity sometimes being used depending on exact gear, How I wish they would upgrade the other augments though to make gearing more flexible (say +12 resist augment instead of only +8).
    Very build and progress specific, but generally in EA 115 ish evo, 105-100 Other schools (unbuffed, no reaper), enchant being 2nd closest. Frog is probably 70something, altho it feels more. Sentinel -6 to all, I am taking CONs.

    Largest single hit i took was 950-ish on LN THTH, being very cautious with movement. (flying skulls when not controlled).

    Trinket Five rings - Wisdom 17, saves 14, _spellcraft22_, CHA 4 --This is the saves gear atm. So no need to augment it if you can make one of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janave View Post
    Very build and progress specific, but generally in EA 115 ish evo, 105-100 Other schools (unbuffed, no reaper), enchant being 2nd closest. Frog is probably 70something, altho it feels more. Sentinel -6 to all, I am taking CONs.

    Largest single hit i took was 950-ish on LN THTH, being very cautious with movement. (flying skulls when not controlled).

    Trinket Five rings - Wisdom 17, saves 14, _spellcraft22_, CHA 4 --This is the saves gear atm. So no need to augment it if you can make one of these.
    Aye, I know about Slavers gear. Its just very annoying to refarm so having a reasonable alternative in augment would be nice both for flexibility and less refarming older content.
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    to be honest the biggest pain with this item setup is the loss of nearly 1k spell point s if I want to use the DW neck cliky from WPM

    on top of that another -400 if i swap to a scroll at the start of the quest from the ottos set artifact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janave View Post
    to be honest the biggest pain with this item setup is the loss of nearly 1k spell point s if I want to use the DW neck cliky from WPM

    on top of that another -400 if i swap to a scroll at the start of the quest from the ottos set artifact.
    True enough. I am feeling that pain as well. I suppose using an augment in the necklace might lessen the problem - or even using the old googles with DW initially till the first 1k sp are gone.
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    Default Issues pumping CHA

    Alright, what else could I be doing without racial /class completionist and a ton of racial PLs??


    Charisma

    20 base
    7 levels
    2 racial enhancements
    4 savant enhancements
    2 EK enhancements
    4 reaper enhancements
    6 tome
    2 guild --47
    2 yugo
    2 remnant
    22 minor artifact
    10 insight onyx
    4 quality slaver
    2 draconic ED -- 42
    3 filigree
    3 artifact set
    2 profane
    1 Bard twist echos

    Total = 98


    Thanks in advance!

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    If you just want to pump charisma drac is not a good ed

    ea 8 or fatesinger 12 or just go pm for dcs

    could also change your night mother setup

    4 otto with 4 cha and then 3 more cha fils on your artifact
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr420247 View Post
    If you just want to pump charisma drac is not a good ed

    ea 8 or fatesinger 12 or just go pm for dcs

    could also change your night mother setup

    4 otto with 4 cha and then 3 more cha fils on your artifact
    I don’t want to max out cha, just get some more. Mobs are saving too much even with evo maxed out on everything else.

    I thought multiple of the same type didn’t stack for filigrees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigErkyKid View Post
    I don’t want to max out cha, just get some more. Mobs are saving too much even with evo maxed out on everything else.

    I thought multiple of the same type didn’t stack for filigrees?
    I'm guessing you only have 2 CHA from draconic because you're taking both Energy Burst and Dragon Breath. Drop them and you'd be amazed at how many AP it opens up. You can get a full stack of CHA from draconic, keep all of the +Evo and +Casting levels skills, retain the +crit damage cores, and twist the magistar +Evo dcs. You can certainly get higher evo DCs if you go into the Magistar tree instead, twist in the draconic Evo skill, and twist in energy burst, but you miss out on the +crit damage and given a crit percentage in the 80s-90s, that can be a significant loss.

    Yes, you won't have your big "ohh ahh" spells, but meteor swarm hits plenty hard and refreshes every few seconds, as opposed to EB and DB which are on long cooldowns.

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    As long as all the charisma filigrees are from different sets they stack fine and the 2 cha raid thread one stacks with the 1 too i think

    If your losing EB and DB why even bother playing in drac those are the funnest parts of drac

    That setups usually better for things like frog, bogw, lock hurl slas etc
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    Thanks for the answers. Essentially, there is no real way to get past 100 without tomes, completionist, and a fully leveled sentient?

    I hesitate to get +2 CHA and give up on the fun abilities.

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