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    so i am doing a wizard life for my last drow life.

    On this guy i did rogue, warlock and arti and sorc lives

    now i feel really weak.

    sorc and lock in particular were really strong and i just crushed things.

    im 7 wiz and it just feels squishy and not great.

    its been forever since i played a wiz and playing it like i played my sorc gets me killed

    here is the build with plans for beyond 7


    wizz
    Wizard 20
    True Neutral Drow


    Stats
    . . . . . . . .32pt . . Tome . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .--------
    Strength. . . . 10. . . .+5. . . .4: INT
    Dexterity . . . 10. . . .+5. . . .8: INT
    Constitution. . 14. . . .+5. . . 12: INT
    Intelligence. . 20. . . .+8. . . 16: INT
    Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+5. . . 20: INT
    Charisma. . . . 14. . . .+5. . . 24: INT
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: INT


    Skills
    . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Spellcr . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Search. . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
    UMD . . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . .16. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 2
    . . . . .28. 8. 8. 9. 9. 9. 9 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 13



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Maximize Spell
    .1 Wizard : Empower Spell
    .3. . . . : Enlarge Spell
    .5 Wizard : Spell Focus: Enchantment
    .6. . . . : Completionist
    .9. . . . : Insightful Reflexes
    10 Wizard : Spell Focus: Necromancy
    12. . . . : Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy
    15. . . . : Heighten Spell
    15 Wizard : Quicken Spell
    18. . . . : Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
    20 Wizard : Extend Spell
    21 Epic . :
    24 Epic . :
    26 Destiny:
    27 Epic . :
    28 Destiny:
    29 Destiny:
    30 Epic . :
    30 Legend :


    tear it apart

    also looking for advice on tips etc to make it easier
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    You have a lot of Metamagic feats and DC related feats.

    I mention this because your wizard life is going to have shallower spell point pool then your sorcerer life.

    Also, I would very much recommend not playing a wizard like a sorcerer.

    Some suggestions:

    1. Heighten & the DC feats
    Are you just going with Heroic levels?
    If you are and crafting is an option you can easily have really good DCs without Heighten and you won't need 4 DC related feats.

    2. Look at adding in the Mental toughness feats and the Sorcerer Past Life Feat (when you have the Wizard PL active feat I recommend that in place of getting the Spell School feats)

    ----
    You don't outline the enhancement tree(s) or your objective...

    Are you going archmagi (Necro or Enchantment)?
    Are you going pale master?
    Are you going Eldritch Knight (more melee)
    ----
    Next I will point out that you should take advantage of the Wizards ability to switch to the best spells for the situation at hand. This is your advantage, the most effective CC and most effective damage. All you need to do is take time to thumb through your spell book and pick the right one.

    Also, look at using synergy with your spells, you need to cast with purpose as you don't have the luxury of a deep spell point pool. Such as combining a web with an AoE damage spell. Target mobs in the back to charm causing the mobs to turn to face the new foe or creating a flank. One technique you can use is to sneak in, charm a mob or few in the back of a group and sneak back out let them engage and then come in and clean up as they are busy killing stuff that doesn't need you to heal .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoach View Post
    You have a lot of Metamagic feats and DC related feats.

    I mention this because your wizard life is going to have shallower spell point pool then your sorcerer life.

    Also, I would very much recommend not playing a wizard like a sorcerer.

    Some suggestions:

    1. Heighten & the DC feats
    Are you just going with Heroic levels?
    If you are and crafting is an option you can easily have really good DCs without Heighten and you won't need 4 DC related feats.

    2. Look at adding in the Mental toughness feats and the Sorcerer Past Life Feat (when you have the Wizard PL active feat I recommend that in place of getting the Spell School feats)

    ----
    You don't outline the enhancement tree(s) or your objective...

    Are you going archmagi (Necro or Enchantment)?
    Are you going pale master?
    Are you going Eldritch Knight (more melee)
    ----
    Next I will point out that you should take advantage of the Wizards ability to switch to the best spells for the situation at hand. This is your advantage, the most effective CC and most effective damage. All you need to do is take time to thumb through your spell book and pick the right one.

    Also, look at using synergy with your spells, you need to cast with purpose as you don't have the luxury of a deep spell point pool. Such as combining a web with an AoE damage spell. Target mobs in the back to charm causing the mobs to turn to face the new foe or creating a flank. One technique you can use is to sneak in, charm a mob or few in the back of a group and sneak back out let them engage and then come in and clean up as they are busy killing stuff that doesn't need you to heal .
    so i didnt pick my enhancments as i wasnt sure. im going am right now as I am trying to play in reaper, but i am dc focused necro enchant.

    im not picky i am just trying to adjust the playstyle

    this guy was one of my first real chars and started out as a wizard so its been a long long strange journey

    and i have no idea on my epic feats i wanted to get feedback there
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    this is with epic levels and am tree focus

    wizz
    Wizard 20
    True Neutral Drow


    Stats
    . . . . . . . .32pt . . Tome . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .---- . . ----. . .--------
    Strength. . . . 10. . . .+5. . . .4: INT
    Dexterity . . . 10. . . .+5. . . .8: INT
    Constitution. . 14. . . .+5. . . 12: INT
    Intelligence. . 20. . . .+8. . . 16: INT
    Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+5. . . 20: INT
    Charisma. . . . 14. . . .+5. . . 24: INT
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: INT


    Skills
    . . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Spellcr . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Search. . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
    UMD . . . 2. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . .16. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 2
    . . . . .28. 8. 8. 9. 9. 9. 9 10 10 10 10 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 13



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Spell Focus: Enchantment
    .1 Wizard : Empower Spell
    .3. . . . : Past Life: Wizard
    .5 Wizard : Maximize Spell
    .6. . . . : Completionist
    .9. . . . : Insightful Reflexes
    10 Wizard : Spell Focus: Necromancy
    12. . . . : Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy
    15. . . . : Heighten Spell
    15 Wizard : Quicken Spell
    18. . . . : Spell Penetration
    20 Wizard : Extend Spell
    21 Epic . : Arcane Insight
    24 Epic . : Greater Spell Penetration
    26 Destiny: Toughness
    27 Epic . : Ruin
    28 Destiny: Mass Frog
    29 Destiny: Arcane Pulse
    30 Epic . : Greater Ruin
    30 Legend : Scion of: Feywild


    Enhancements (80+4 AP)

    Archmage (45 AP)
    • Hypnotism, Otto's Resistable Dance, Hold Person, Charm Monster, Hold Monster, Master of Magic
      1. Spell Critical, Wand and Scroll Mastery III
      2. Efficient Quicken III
      3. Arcane Bolt III, Spell Penetration III, Intelligence
      4. Efficient Heighten II, School Mastery: Enchantment, Intelligence
      5. Arcane Blast III, Arcane Supremacy, School Mastery: Enchantment, Secondary School Mastery: Necromancy

    Eldritch Knight (Wizard) (23 AP)
    • Eldritch Strike, Spellsword: Frost, Spellsword II: Shock, Spellsword III: Acid
      1. Improved Mage Armor III, Toughness III
      2. Improved Shield III, Light Armor Proficiency, Wand and Scroll Mastery III
      3. Elemental Resistance I, Intelligence
      4. Intelligence

    Harper Agent (10 AP)
    • Agent of Good I, Intelligence
      1. Weathered Traveler III, Traveler's Toughness I
      2. Magical Endurance III

    Drow (6 AP)
    • Spell Resistance, Intelligence, Spell Resistance II, Intelligence
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    For Heroics only I would consider Going into the PM tree, Lich gives you DCs. @ lvl 7 you pick up Death aura and Neg energy burst. With a decent amount of Neg Spell power this should get you thru R1 pretty easy.

    @ level 10 make sure you have a silverthreaded belt from RL which will stack with equipment bonus. I belt swap this and cast extended Lesser Death aura and Death aura
    Get the full beacon of Magic set. Buying the offhand macabre scepter with bonus spell DCs from the vendor in the second RL hub will help your DCs considerably.

    Macabre Sceptre: 1.5[W], +5 Enhancement Bonus, Spell Focus Mastery +2, Insightful Spell Focus Mastery +1, Spell Penetration III, Insightful Spell Penetration II, Empty Orange Augment Slot

    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Silverthread_Belt


    Then go to either a Burnscar sash(fire/acid) or Thrummingspark cord(cold/electric).
    I have a cannith ring of either fire or electric SP and Lore depending on what I am doing.

    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Skulled_Ring

    and a cannith crafted staff/ring of Nullification and spell lore. but I find the freebee is good enough from RL.


    at lvl 14? make sure you farm the Trinket and neck
    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Cursekeeper
    https://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Cursed_Skull

    If you get all this, youll be pushing 450+ neg spell power. and you can absolutely do R1 as wiz solo with your auras healing you.

    If you have enlarge, you can hit mobs from almost draw distance. You can charm a single target mob and let them take on the pack.

    If you have an upper level farming toon, farming dreaming dark to get the upgraded Vibrant Purple Ioun Stone with wizardry and Spell Pen is a decent boost for any lower level caster. you can farm it on casual for fast runs and you get a random stone every 3rd completion. if the stone is not one you want get the shards or the disc to upgrade your eventual drop. I think the Pale lavender Ioun stone is a good grab as well. but make sure to upgrade it too.
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    some thoughts as i finally came back to this char. once you get level 4 spells its a lot better.

    level 18 now and doing r5 with no issues


    enlarge is key, i am thinking of droping completionist.
    main toons: hauteur(silly caster) Sttomper (silly barbarian)-jammiee (Silly paladin)
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