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    Community Member Swimms's Avatar
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    Default Looking for some build options for a Sun Elf iconic....

    I still need 1 more cleric PL so I could go pure but I am not opposed to splashing and playing a melee either. People have mentioned a fighter splash and dual wielding Khopesh and I do have a Calamity on this toon so that is an option if someone has a build they can point me to. What about Necro cleric? Sorry just looking for some inspiration as I prepare for the next life. Thanks

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    If you want to use that calamity; I would recommend 14 cleric/6 ranger; war domain (free khop prof and holy sword); Strength based melee with charisma (Divine Might).

    For AP; you'll be looking for Tempest T5's (40 AP, ignore improved evasion), Warpriest Amel and doublestrike (25 AP) and deepwood (11 AP), favored enemy from Vistanii and falconry (4 AP).

    Use heavy armor and khopeshes; and swap on/off EDF as needed, you can play the role of a melee dps or a healbot as needed, and can switch between pretty fast. Soloing is about as good as it gets on a melee cleric and grouping is fun.
    Selvera: Half elf Fvs 20; Healer archer with a bit more of a damage build then usual
    Jen: Half Elf Fvs 20/Epic 10; Healer Archer with a more supportive build then usual
    Mayve: Tiefling Sorc 16; Just a pastlife for an alt

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    I got a PM asking for more info on this build by someone who's exceeded their mailbox space (or so it said); so I'll just throw it up here.


    Basically I'm looking at doing a strength/cha based tempest version of a dex-based tempest I did before the warpriest update (which nerfed amel; but also added the doublestrike and buffed a bunch of other stuff in the tree). Here's my notes from the character planner re: which feats I took:

    Feats

    .1. . . . : Dodge
    .3. . . . : Two Weapon Defense
    .6. . . . : Precision
    .9. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing
    12. . . . : Child of: Undying Court
    15. . . . : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    18. . . . : Mobility
    21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic . : Quicken Spell
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic . : Empower Healing Spell
    28 Destiny: Pierce Damage Reduction: Silver
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge
    30 Epic . : Epic Damage Reduction
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea

    .1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Elemental
    .5 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Aberration

    .8 Cleric : War Domain

    .7 Deity. : Follower of: Undying Court
    12 Deity. : Undying Call

    I took the ranger levels first (necessary for dex based to get dex to damage; but even for str based it's good to frontload the free TWF feats so you can take the improved versions sooner) - Don't forget to get enough dex to qualify for the prereqs!

    Obviously you'll have to pick a different deity; undying court is for scimitars and sucks outside of that. None are for khopesh unfortunately; so just pick one with a good active at level 6. Sov Host is one option. EDIT: Oh wait; sun elf, you're locked into a single deity. At least it gives permanent fire shield; could be worse.

    Pierce DR silver could easily be cold iron -> bypasses most of the same stuff and slightly more; but doesn't bypass the DR of Harry. Depends on what you plan on doing.

    For the scion feat there's a few choices; I like Arborea for a quick few seeds quests then TR sort of thing. Celestia gives a large chunk of durability and healing power for a more healer focus. Ethereal Plane is likely better DPS if you invest in hide and/or have the rogue pastlife feat to take.
    Last edited by Selvera; 01-24-2019 at 02:13 PM.
    Selvera: Half elf Fvs 20; Healer archer with a bit more of a damage build then usual
    Jen: Half Elf Fvs 20/Epic 10; Healer Archer with a more supportive build then usual
    Mayve: Tiefling Sorc 16; Just a pastlife for an alt

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    Community Member Swimms's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvera View Post
    I got a PM asking for more info on this build by someone who's exceeded their mailbox space (or so it said); so I'll just throw it up here.


    Basically I'm looking at doing a strength/cha based tempest version of a dex-based tempest I did before the warpriest update (which nerfed amel; but also added the doublestrike and buffed a bunch of other stuff in the tree). Here's my notes from the character planner re: which feats I took:

    Feats

    .1. . . . : Dodge
    .3. . . . : Two Weapon Defense
    .6. . . . : Precision
    .9. . . . : Improved Critical: Slashing
    12. . . . : Child of: Undying Court
    15. . . . : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    18. . . . : Mobility
    21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic . : Quicken Spell
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic . : Empower Healing Spell
    28 Destiny: Pierce Damage Reduction: Silver
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge
    30 Epic . : Epic Damage Reduction
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea

    .1 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Elemental
    .5 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Aberration

    .8 Cleric : War Domain

    .7 Deity. : Follower of: Undying Court
    12 Deity. : Undying Call

    I took the ranger levels first (necessary for dex based to get dex to damage; but even for str based it's good to frontload the free TWF feats so you can take the improved versions sooner) - Don't forget to get enough dex to qualify for the prereqs!

    Obviously you'll have to pick a different deity; undying court is for scimitars and sucks outside of that. None are for khopesh unfortunately; so just pick one with a good active at level 6. Sov Host is one option. EDIT: Oh wait; sun elf, you're locked into a single deity. At least it gives permanent fire shield; could be worse.

    Pierce DR silver could easily be cold iron -> bypasses most of the same stuff and slightly more; but doesn't bypass the DR of Harry. Depends on what you plan on doing.

    For the scion feat there's a few choices; I like Arborea for a quick few seeds quests then TR sort of thing. Celestia gives a large chunk of durability and healing power for a more healer focus. Ethereal Plane is likely better DPS if you invest in hide and/or have the rogue pastlife feat to take.
    Awesome , thank you. I cleaned up the inbox space too so thanks for the heads up there . Since this is an iconic I will not have any problem front loading the Ranger levels. Thanks again for taking the time to share, looking forward to giving it a go
    Last edited by Swimms; 01-24-2019 at 02:22 PM.

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    See my Tempest Warpriest thread.
    Major build threads: Axesinger / Dwarven Defender / Drow Ninja / Drow Paladin / Elven Ranger / Monkcher / Sacred Vanguard / Cleric Domains / Kundarak Brigade / Iconic Builds
    My Build Index: a Motley Menagerie of Original Rapscallions, Pugilists, and Gimps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    See my Tempest Warpriest thread.
    Thanks, I took a quick look and I would probably have to do some modifications as I plan to make her a sun elf and need primary class to be cleric

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    See my Tempest Warpriest thread.
    Taking a look at that thread... and I think that what Unbong is talking about is a build he posted buried 5 pages in, a build which fulfills most of the OP's needs and is not unlike the one I outlined above. I'm not sure if it's any better then the build I posted above, but perhaps it's a bit more detailed of a roadmap?

    Some reasons I like my build:

    1) My build is majority cleric and the OP wanted a cleric pastlife
    2) My build doesn't suggest investment into non-sun elf racial trees
    3) My build doesn't waste any points in radiant servant
    4) The build I proposed is very similar to one I've played personally.
    Selvera: Half elf Fvs 20; Healer archer with a bit more of a damage build then usual
    Jen: Half Elf Fvs 20/Epic 10; Healer Archer with a more supportive build then usual
    Mayve: Tiefling Sorc 16; Just a pastlife for an alt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvera View Post
    I think that what Unbong is talking about is a build he posted buried 5 pages in
    Yes this was the build I was referencing but didn't have time to link it yesterday. If you have Falconry, OP, you can also go WIS-based instead. There's a bunch of other melee builds in my Cleric Domains thread.
    Major build threads: Axesinger / Dwarven Defender / Drow Ninja / Drow Paladin / Elven Ranger / Monkcher / Sacred Vanguard / Cleric Domains / Kundarak Brigade / Iconic Builds
    My Build Index: a Motley Menagerie of Original Rapscallions, Pugilists, and Gimps!

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