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    Default Renegade Vistani

    I wanted to do a melee artificer build, but based on my experience with battle engineering on a ranged artificer I didn't think it would be durable enough for my tastes on a melee. Renegade Mastermaking brings a lot of durability and utility, but lacks the DPS for a viable melee. By adding in SWF vistani you get decent DPS while going t5 in RM.

    There's a number of places you can go from there. I'm going to post two builds. The first is what I'm currently using. It adds in fighter levels and defensive stance for even more durability (+40% HP from RM t5 and SD defensive stance). The second (next post) says pure and has better healing and casting

    There's not much difference between a warforged or fleshy build here. You get all those artificer bonus feats, but have little to spend them on so there's not much loss in using them on on contruct essence feats. I used an iconic so I avoided the awkward lvl 9-12 range where you have construct essence by not the improved version. If you're a fleshy leveling from one you might want to take something else at lvl 9 (maybe exotic WF: bastard sword since you won't have the AP for vistani yet), then switch that out with Fred for construct essence right before you take lvl 12.

    Note that contrary to what I've read here *mighty slam* and *battlefist* are small arc AoEs with any weapon (if you have rune arm equiped) not just with weapons that produce glancing blows. It takes some getting use to, but even with the small arc you can lock down several oppoenets with mighty slam and battle fist. I like to let the crowd develop a bit, then hit mighty slam, followed by cleaves, then battlefist to maximize the stun duration and AoE helpless damage.

    Both builds are very competent healers. You have a repair aura like a radiant servant, can convert one ally to repair healing, have two reconstructs (sla and spell), and admixtures. I'm not someone who takes on the roll of party healer so I can't speak to that, but this makes a great combination of reaper healing options for both yourself and your party. Reconstruct can power through the self healing penalty up to about r7 or so, and you can help out the party with converter and admixtures.

    Code:
    Tanky Renegade Vistani Gnome
    16/3/1 Artificer/Fighter/Wizard
    True Neutral Deep Gnome
    
    
    Level Order
    
    1. Wizard          6. Artificer      11. Artificer      16. Artificer
    2. Artificer       7. Artificer      12. Artificer      17. Artificer
    3. Artificer       8. Artificer      13. Artificer      18. Artificer
    4. Artificer       9. Artificer      14. Fighter        19. Fighter
    5. Artificer      10. Artificer      15. Fighter        20. Artificer
    
    
    Stats
                   28pt     32pt     34pt     36pt     Tome     Level Up
                   ----     ----     ----     ----     ----     --------
    Strength        11       10       12       12       +6       4: INT
    Dexterity        8        8        8        8       +6       8: INT
    Constitution    14       16       16       16       +6      12: INT
    Intelligence    20       20       20       20       +6      16: INT
    Wisdom          10       10       10       10       +6      20: INT
    Charisma         7        8        8       10       +6      24: INT
                                                                28: INT
    
    Skills
              W  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  F  F  A  A  A  F  A
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Balance   2  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½                              7
             ------------------------------------------------------------
              4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
             28 10 10 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 13 11 11 14 14 14 12 14
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Insightful Reflexes
     1 Wizard : Quicken Spell
     3        : Power Attack
     5 Arti   : Single Weapon Fighting
     6        : Cleave
     9        : Great Cleave
     9 Arti   : Construct Essence
    12        : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    13 Arti   : Improved Construct Essence
    14 Fighter: Improved Critical: Piercing
    15        : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    15 Fighter: Precision
    18        : Heavy Armor Training
    20 Arti   : Extend Spell
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Construct Exemplar
    26 Destiny: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Bulwark of Defense
    28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge
    30 Epic   : Epic Damage Reduction
    30 Legend : Scion of: Plane of Earth
    
    
    Enhancements (80 AP)
    
    Renegade Mastermaker (34 AP)
    • Renegade Defender, Alchemical Shield, Cure Serious Admixture, Constructive Conduit
      1. Easily Fixed, Supporting Construction III, Toughness III
      2. Kinetic Discharge III, Mighty Slam III, Armor Mastery III
      3. Battlefist
      4. Kinetic Charge, Reconstruct III, Embed Component III
      5. Forcefield: Automatic, Paragon Body, Regeneration Construct
    Vistani Knife Fighter (25 AP)
    • Knife Expertise, Knife Juggler, Knife Specialist, One With Blades
      1. Vistani Knife Training, Mist Stalker, Rapid Attack
      2. Vistani Knife Training, Mist Stalker, Haste Boost III
      3. Fan of Knives, Mist Stalker, Deadly Blades
      4. Celerity, Single Dagger
    Stalwart Defender (13 AP)
    • Toughness, Stalwart Defense
      1. Durable Defense III, Stalwart Defensive Mastery II
      2. Resilient Defense III
      3. Tenacious Defense III
    Harper Agent (8 AP)
    • Agent of Good I
      1. Harper Enchantment, Strategic Combat
      2. Know the Angles III
    Last edited by SerPounce; 05-16-2018 at 01:19 PM.
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    This version is less tanky, but tries to go for more artificer CC casting with things like tactical detonation and burst of glacial wrath. It also maximizes the renegade mastermaker repair aura and picks up the 5th and 6th RM cores and the 5th vistani core (resulting in a bit more DPS).

    I went with the first version because I wanted to try out the stacking HP bonuses and I'm always doubious about trying to get casting DCs on anything other than a focused caster. Whether you can make those DCs work will probably depend on past lives and reaper points (sorc PLs, +int racials, reaper caster tree).
    Code:
    Pure renegade vistani gnome
    Artificer 20
    Gnome
    
    
    Stats
                   36pt     Tome     Level Up
                   ----     ----     --------
    Strength        11       +6       4: INT
    Dexterity        8       +6       8: INT
    Constitution    17       +6      12: INT
    Intelligence    20       +6      16: INT
    Wisdom           8       +6      20: INT
    Charisma        10       +6      24: INT
                                     28: INT
    
    Skills
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Balance   2  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½  ½                              7
             ------------------------------------------------------------
              4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
             36 10 10 11 11 11 11 12 12 12 12 13 13 13 13 14 14 14 14 14
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Insightful Reflexes
     3        : Power Attack
     4 Arti   : Single Weapon Fighting
     6        : Cleave
     8 Arti   : Construct Essence
     9        : Improved Single Weapon Fighting
    12        : Improved Critical: Piercing
    12 Arti   : Improved Construct Essence
    15        : Greater Single Weapon Fighting
    16 Arti   : Quicken Spell
    18        : Great Cleave
    20 Arti   : Empower Healing Spell
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Construct Exemplar
    26 Destiny: Perfect Single Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Spell Focus: Evocation
    28 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge
    30 Epic   : Burst of Glacial Wrath
    30 Legend : Scion of: Plane of Earth
    
    
    Enhancements (80 AP)
    
    Renegade Mastermaker (41 AP)
    • Renegade Defender, Alchemical Shield, Cure Serious Admixture, Constructive Conduit, Radiant Forcefield, Mass Unbreakable Forcefield
      1. Easily Fixed, Supporting Construction III, Toughness III
      2. Kinetic Discharge I, Mighty Slam I, Armor Mastery III, Converter
      3. Battlefist, Reinforced Armor III, Intelligence
      4. Kinetic Charge, Reconstruct III, Embed Component III, Intelligence
      5. Cure Critical Admixture, Forcefield: Automatic, Paragon Body, Regeneration Construct
    Vistani Knife Fighter (31 AP)
    • Knife Expertise, Knife Juggler, Knife Specialist, One With Blades, Vistani Fortune
      1. Vistani Knife Training, Mist Stalker, Rapid Attack
      2. Vistani Knife Training, Bleeding Cuts, Mist Stalker
      3. Vistani Knife Training, Fan of Knives, Mist Stalker, Deadly Blades
      4. Vistani Knife Training, Celerity, Mist Stalker, Single Dagger
    Harper Agent (8 AP)
    • Agent of Good I
      1. Harper Enchantment, Strategic Combat
      2. Know the Angles III
    Last edited by SerPounce; 05-16-2018 at 01:15 PM.
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    What about the equipment u use for the 1st variant?

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