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    Default Returning Player Help Ranger/Rogue Build

    I am recently returning to the game after a long absence. I want to make a character that will play well with my son, but able to solo as well - especially to disable traps on normal difficulty. I am trying to make a rogue / ranger build (Arcane Archer Enhancements). I rolled up an elf and took rogue 1st, and ranger 2nd. Plan to take rogue 3rd, then the rest in ranger. If needed, here are my stats (14,18,14,12,10,8). Just want to know if this seems like a viable build. Thanks in advance.
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    Mmmmm...

    It might work, but there is no compelling reason to plan to take more than 1 level of Rogue - anything more dilutes/delays everything that Ranger can give.

    You're only Level 2/3 - stop, delete, and roll up one of these two (you want the first, "Bow"/Ranged, but including both versions for any who'd rather go 2-weapon fighting style)...

    o Bow https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5793839
    (Edit - W/ a 32 points build, going w/ 18 Dex and a higher Strength solves many future Encumbrance headaches, and you're only losing a little DPS.)

    ...& 2WF https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...or-new-players


    And you could certainly mesh the two - a Barbarian level for faster kiting can be a life-saver.

    (Edit: If you're going to do that, plan it out 100% https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5534437.)


    Both are from this (highly recommended!) thread:

    o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5759353
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duplicate_5 View Post
    I am trying to make a rogue / ranger build (Arcane Archer Enhancements). I rolled up an elf and took rogue 1st, and ranger 2nd. Plan to take rogue 3rd, then the rest in ranger.
    Unless you need the skill pts or really want Evasion early on, there's no particular reason to take rogue 2 on a ranger build, since you get Evasion at rgr lvl 9. I prefer a barb splash (rgr 18 / rog 1 / barb 1) for the +10% run speed; one of the drawbacks of ranger is they did NOT get a Fast Movement enhancement like Acrobat's.
    If needed, here are my stats (14,18,14,12,10,8).
    You can dump STR on a ranger these days to focus on DEX and CON; you also need INT for enough skill pts and (if going AA) WIS will boost your Paralyzing Arrow DCs now.

    Here's a modified version of one of my builds:
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    Aerenal Archer
    18/1/1 Ranger/Barbarian/Rogue
    True Neutral Elf
    
    
    
    
    Level Order
    
    
    1. Rogue           6. Ranger         11. Ranger         16. Ranger
    2. Ranger          7. Ranger         12. Ranger         17. Ranger
    3. Ranger          8. Barbarian      13. Ranger         18. Ranger
    4. Ranger          9. Ranger         14. Ranger         19. Ranger
    5. Ranger         10. Ranger         15. Ranger         20. Ranger
    
    
    
    
    Stats
                   28pt     32pt     Level Up
                   ----     ----     --------
    Strength         8        8       4: DEX
    Dexterity       18       18       8: DEX
    Constitution    12       14      12: DEX
    Intelligence    14       14      16: DEX
    Wisdom          14       14      20: DEX
    Charisma         8        8      24: DEX
                                     28: DEX
    
    
    Skills
             Rg Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Bn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn Rn
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Disable   4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Search    4  1  1  1  1  1  1     2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Spot      4  1  1  1  1  1  1     2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    UMD       4  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  23
    Open Lo   4  1  1     1     1           1     1     1     1     1     13
    Spellcr   2        1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1     1  11
    Balance   4                                                            4
    Hide      4                                                            4
    Move Si   4                                                            4
    Tumble    4                                                            4
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             40  8  8  8  8  8  8  6  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8  8
    
    
    
    
    Feats
    
    
     1        : Point Blank Shot
     3        : Precision
     6        : Least Dragonmark: Shadow
     9        : Improved Critical: Ranged
    12        : Quicken Spell
    15        : Empower Healing Spell
    18        : Spell Focus: Enchantment
    21 Epic   : Combat Archery
    24 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    26 Destiny: Holy Strike OR Pierce Damage Reduction: Silver
    27 Epic   : Blinding Speed OR Epic Damage Reduction
    28 Destiny: Doubleshot
    29 Destiny: Embodiment of Law OR Deific Warding
    30 Epic   : Epic Reflexes OR Epic Damage Reduction
    30 Legend : Scion of: Plane of Earth OR Ethereal Plane
    
    
     2 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Undead
     6 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Giant
    12 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    17 Ranger : Favored Enemy: Construct OR Elemental
    
    
    
    
    Enhancements (80 AP)
    
    
    Deepwood Stalker (37 AP)
    
    • Far Shot, Sneak Attack, Sniper Shot, Advanced Sneak Attack, Mark of the Hunted
      1. Stealthy III, Increased Empathy I
      2. Survivalist, Improved Weapon Finesse, Melee/Range Power Boost III
      3. Survivalist, Favored Hunter III, Aimed Shot, Dexterity
      4. Survivalist, Killer III, Merciful Shot
      5. Heavy Draw, Strikes Like Lightning, Improved Archer's Focus
    Arcane Archer (31 AP)
    • Arcane Archer, Morphic Arrows, Metalline Arrows, Aligned Arrows, Shadow Arrows
      1. Conjure Arrows, Energy of the Wild III, Corrosive Arrows
      2. Force Arrows I, Elemental Damage
      3. Terror Arrows, Soul Magic, Elemental Damage, Dexterity
      4. Banishing Arrows, Paralyzing Arrows, Smiting Arrows, Elemental Damage, Dexterity
    Elf (12 AP)
    • Elven Accuracy, Elven Dexterity
      1. Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus III, Aerenal Weapon Training
      2. Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow
      3. Greater Dragonmark of Shadow
    With a +2 INT tome you should be able to afford to max out Open Lock as well; although since this is a DEX build, it's probably not necessary to have max ranks in OL. A lot of trapper potential comes from gear & buffs anyway.

    The Dragonmark is partly for flavor (glowing tattoos are cool!) but mostly for the Displacement clickie (Gtr Shadow DM). Downside is the 12 AP cost.
    Last edited by unbongwah; 07-17-2018 at 12:54 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-Dog View Post
    Mmmmm...

    It might work, but there is no compelling reason to plan to take more than 1 level of Rogue - anything more dilutes/delays everything that Ranger can give.

    You're only Level 2/3 - stop, delete, and roll up one of these two (you want the first, "Bow"/Ranged, but including both versions for any who'd rather go 2-weapon fighting style)...

    o Bow https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5793839
    (Edit - W/ a 32 points build, going w/ 18 Dex and a higher Strength solves many future Encumbrance headaches, and you're only losing a little DPS.)

    ...& 2WF https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...or-new-players


    And you could certainly mesh the two - a Barbarian level for faster kiting can be a life-saver.

    (Edit: If you're going to do that, plan it out 100% https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5534437.)


    Both are from this (highly recommended!) thread:

    o https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post5759353
    Are all of them still 'in date' ?

    As a total newbie I worry that at the time of writing they were the bees' knees but that some update or nerf or whatever might have invalidated them as I've been strongly considering the trapmonkey TWF ranger build

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    Ranger hasn't had amy significant changes since those were posted, so those are all still good. Take a look at the build Unb' posted above and compare - that will have any "current" tweaks built in.

    Some players complain about bow DPS (and it is less than Great X-bow and repeaters), yet bow builds seem to still make it to 20 and 30 no problem. I know mine did.

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