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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoner81 View Post
    Why Bard for level 1 m8? Wouldn't Rogue be better for the skill points or am I missing something?
    Feats are tight; starting with bard lets him take a metamagic at lvl 1. If he started with rogue, he could take SWF but then need a filler feat since neither a metamagic, Precision, nor Shield Mastery could be taken w/just rogue. He got that idea from me.
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    Looking at one minor detail. In the farming video's, I keep seeing what looks like Leap of Faith, including the icon on the #20 slot 2 hotkey bar but I don't see it in the build. Have some guesses, but I'll just ask - what am I missing for the source of that mixed into that list of enhancements/epic destinies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riorik View Post
    Looking at one minor detail. In the farming video's, I keep seeing what looks like Leap of Faith, including the icon on the #20 slot 2 hotkey bar but I don't see it in the build. Have some guesses, but I'll just ask - what am I missing for the source of that mixed into that list of enhancements/epic destinies?
    I switch to Exalted Angel for collectable farming just for the wings. (Combat isn't needed for collectable farming.) The one exception, I think, is terminal delirium, where I may be in either fatesinger for more dps or shadowdancer for immunity to level drain. I can't really remember offhand.

    You should be able to see my active destiny at the bottom of the screen for any given collectable farming video.

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    Pardon the necro.

    I love this guy's speed and survivability. I built one to farm Cannith Challenges and now I'm trying the build out on the hardcore server. Should I drop a feat to take the new 'Swords into Plowshares' feat? If so, which one?

    Does anyone have any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleTimb View Post
    Pardon the necro.

    I love this guy's speed and survivability. I built one to farm Cannith Challenges and now I'm trying the build out on the hardcore server. Should I drop a feat to take the new 'Swords into Plowshares' feat? If so, which one?

    Does anyone have any thoughts?
    Feats are pretty tight on this build and I can't see anything you would possibly want to drop for it. Add to this due to Exploit Weakness (T5 Swash) we already get bonuses to crit range until we crit then it resets. Overall I don't see the need for it but YMMV.

    Stoner81.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleTimb View Post
    I love this guy's speed and survivability. I built one to farm Cannith Challenges and now I'm trying the build out on the hardcore server. Should I drop a feat to take the new 'Swords into Plowshares' feat? If so, which one?
    I would drop Kama Proficiency to fit it in and use sickles instead, but that's probably not the answer you're looking for.

    If sticking with kamas, I wouldn't take Swords to Plowshares because I wouldn't want to replace any of the dps feats -- SWF line, Shield line, improved critical -- leaving only Extend and Kama Proficiency as possible swap-outs. You don't have BAB 4 when extend is taken so it can't go there, leaving only Kama prof at 6.

    (In fact, BAB prereqs are tricky with this build; many of the feats taken cannot be taken in any other feat slot because of it.)

    If you're going beyond level 21, you do get another feat at 24 so maybe take it there instead of overwhelming critical or whatever epic bard feat there is? (EDIT: Wiki says it's Inspire Excellence.)

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    Iirc, DPS is not lacking for this build's job. You can level it up slowly and safely, and then it doesn't have to be a killer, just a farmer. Swords into Plowshares would be nice (moar DPS is always "nice", esp for HCL), but it's not the priority here.

    (And afaic, Necro's are fine when OT, and this is. Not like it'd help to have everyone start a new thread to talk about making a small tweak updating a popular build. Imo.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoner81 View Post
    Feats are pretty tight on this build and I can't see anything you would possibly want to drop for it. Add to this due to Exploit Weakness (T5 Swash) we already get bonuses to crit range until we crit then it resets. Overall I don't see the need for it but YMMV.

    Stoner81.
    Thanks everyone for your replies. Stoner81, you're right. I had completely forgotten about Exploit Weakness. Since Swords into Plowshares just adds to the crit. range for kamas and not to the multiplier there's no need for it once you have the T5 enhancement.

    So far he's been doing very well in Hardcore. I'm sure that's attributable about 60% to the solid build, 39% to my completely risk-adverse play style and 1% to my awesome player skills.

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