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    Hit 20 so final thoughts. My DPS falls off big time around L13 as other classes/builds catch up to the point that my DPS is almost non-existent in the upper levels (unless using slaying arrows). However, can paralyze anything and it is extremely effective in making quests very easy for your party. The only mobs who made saves on Para (other than immune ones of course) were the Drow archers from the new Mines chain who must have some sort of super high para save. I was able to duo Reaper under level (16) the Storm Horns and Wheloon. Basically if you want to mass paralyze everything while having good healing this is the build for you. In the upper tier of heroics though when a pure Cleric is imploding and BB things you feel a bit under powered though that might just be the mind set because there were many quests that were likely only finished because of the para arrows. Also for PUGing your para arrows make the rest of the group much better if you are set up with a less than ideal Reaper group. Very survivable as well. I think I might have only died 3 or 4 times on the way from 12 to 20 (in Reaper). Well over 700 HPs and able to stop mobs tends to make you hard to kill.

    Would be interested to see how new Cleric Domains would fit in with this.


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    Default Build update, trickery domain

    Vish the reaper
    Priest of the silver flame
    14/4/2 cleric ranger fighter
    LN human
    Trickery Domain

    Str 8
    Dex 16
    Con 14
    Int 12
    Wis 18 +7
    Cha 8
    +6 tomes

    Skills Umd, heal, jump

    1 cleric (silver flame) empower heal
    Human PBS
    2 ranger (bow str) undead
    3 ranger (rapid shot, twf) zen archery
    4 ranger (diehard)
    5 ranger (precise shot)
    6 cleric extend
    7 fighter manyshot
    8-9 cleric ic ranged
    10-12 cleric quicken
    13 fighter imp precise shot
    14-15 cleric sf enchantment
    16-18 cleric heighten
    19-20 cleric

    21 oc
    24 greater sf enchant
    26 sp pos
    27 blinding speed
    28 doubleshot
    29 fount of life
    30 Celestia
    Feat enlarge

    Ap
    33 radiant aura
    28 aa paralyzers
    14 dws
    5 human

    Notes
    Dropping the stalwart d, keeping imp precise shot
    Losing 300 hp, maybe the mass charm will make it up.
    Not that I take that much damage as a cleric, even tho paralyzers draw aggro, I should be ok.
    Adding in heighten and enlarge, in case it works out.
    Since max and empower just for the burst, which I rarely use, is a waste. Will see if metas make any difference.
    I could have went 6 ranger, but I would lose the ips, and I'm hedging my bets on this one. The only gain I would get would be tier5 during leveling, but not needed for endgame build.
    The changeover will see more ap into paralyzers, and dws. I should have aura before 20. But mass charm only at 20, so will test in epics...

    The trade up to this build is +5 to enchant dc. +3 from trickery, and another +2 from enhancements in aa. Now I will have banishes and smiters. So it's an upgrade for that 300 hp.
    Besides I run in dc, and have consecration/sacred ground to make up for damage mitigation. Should be fine.
    Also, I pick up +2 wisdom. Since new ap spread, I get 1 in dws, and 1 in aa. So actually a total of +6 enchant add. That may make a difference, since many tgts in mid reaper require multiple hits.

    Vish is a 36 pt build, with 3 cleric lives and 1 epic. So he is my proof that minimum investment can pay off. But the trickery here is max gear. Which he has all bis with slavers. No set yet, that will be decided during ravenloft.
    Will tr and pick up a human life. Will test at cap then decide if I want to reroll again for a +1 wisdom. But likely he will be my camper.

    Will post build notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal_Lannes View Post
    Hit 20 so final thoughts.
    Good to hear. I do realize that the dps drops off a bit; I recall soloing EH ToEE and EH slavelords however, so you still can solo; but probably not in elite at higher levels. I mostly enjoyed being a support healer who could contribute a little dps

    War domain should help with the dps a bit; since it gives you your missing crit profile increase and a little bump to your base damage.

    I was mainly using elemental arrows instead of para arrows; since with my gear-level that life the ~100 damage per hit was essentially doubleing my non-crit damage at the time. Para arrows are great in a party for all the reasons you mentioned, a mob who can't attack is damage that doesn't have to be healed. At 30 I took scion of water since the scaling-with-spellpower on hit damage was the best damage available on the list. Celestia is obviously better for the support role however.

    Have fun!

    Ps. Vish; if you're not taking fvs levels, there's almost no point in going silver flame. Elf gets proficiency with longbow, +1 to hit is negligible and the level 6 active sucks pretty hard. Just take a useful deity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selvera View Post

    Ps. Vish; if you're not taking fvs levels, there's almost no point in going silver flame. Elf gets proficiency with longbow, +1 to hit is negligible and the level 6 active sucks pretty hard. Just take a useful deity.
    Ps selvera,
    I'm a role player, not a roll player
    So this is a flavor build?
    That just happens to work in reaper 10?
    I'm a silver flame priest,
    Vish is guild leader of the silver flame jokers,
    And you want me to take a useful deity?
    Ha.
    You do get adds at other level for longbow hit and damage
    And while I don't use the exorcism,
    I'm not about to change the motif.
    And I'm a cleric, not a fvs
    It's the best build for the job
    Silver flame ftw!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vish View Post
    Vish the reaper
    Priest of the silver flame
    14/4/2 cleric ranger fighter
    LN human
    Trickery Domain

    Str 8
    Dex 16
    Con 14
    Int 12
    Wis 18 +7
    Cha 8
    +6 tomes

    Skills Umd, heal, jump

    1 cleric (silver flame) empower heal
    Human PBS
    2 ranger (bow str) undead
    3 ranger (rapid shot, twf) zen archery
    4 ranger (diehard)
    5 ranger (precise shot)
    6 cleric extend
    7 fighter manyshot
    8-9 cleric ic ranged
    10-12 cleric quicken
    13 fighter imp precise shot
    14-15 cleric sf enchantment
    16-18 cleric heighten
    19-20 cleric

    21 oc
    24 greater sf enchant
    26 sp pos
    27 blinding speed
    28 doubleshot
    29 fount of life
    30 Celestia
    Feat enlarge

    Ap
    33 radiant aura
    28 aa paralyzers
    14 dws
    5 human

    Notes
    Dropping the stalwart d, keeping imp precise shot
    Losing 300 hp, maybe the mass charm will make it up.
    Not that I take that much damage as a cleric, even tho paralyzers draw aggro, I should be ok.
    Adding in heighten and enlarge, in case it works out.
    Since max and empower just for the burst, which I rarely use, is a waste. Will see if metas make any difference.
    I could have went 6 ranger, but I would lose the ips, and I'm hedging my bets on this one. The only gain I would get would be tier5 during leveling, but not needed for endgame build.
    The changeover will see more ap into paralyzers, and dws. I should have aura before 20. But mass charm only at 20, so will test in epics...

    The trade up to this build is +5 to enchant dc. +3 from trickery, and another +2 from enhancements in aa. Now I will have banishes and smiters. So it's an upgrade for that 300 hp.
    Besides I run in dc, and have consecration/sacred ground to make up for damage mitigation. Should be fine.
    Also, I pick up +2 wisdom. Since new ap spread, I get 1 in dws, and 1 in aa. So actually a total of +6 enchant add. That may make a difference, since many tgts in mid reaper require multiple hits.

    Vish is a 36 pt build, with 3 cleric lives and 1 epic. So he is my proof that minimum investment can pay off. But the trickery here is max gear. Which he has all bis with slavers. No set yet, that will be decided during ravenloft.
    Will tr and pick up a human life. Will test at cap then decide if I want to reroll again for a +1 wisdom. But likely he will be my camper.

    Will post build notes.
    Did a LR +1
    Ran with rah and kildoes and did some reaper7 and reaper10
    In both situations, paralyzers worked
    The mass charm was meeting sr,
    Maybe useful in lower reaper
    Will test further

    But LRed as posted build
    But changed ap
    On suggestion, went cure focus in radiant
    Testing it out
    Added banish, smiter and another +1 wis in aa
    Haven't added yet in dws
    Still have a few free ap
    Build has 1100 hp, but short 25 prr mrr from stalwart
    But mostly I don't draw aggro

    Haven't been playing vish lately,
    So it'll be a bit of comeuppance
    To get him back in the saddle
    But I can hang high reaper
    Ips is useful in high reaper,
    Since tactics are different
    There is a lot of drawing,
    So in long corridors mobs line up
    Ips sweet there

    Still have a LR in case I need to change something
    But this is a reaper cleric
    Now to reap
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    Kil (heroic and epic completionist)

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    Default Level 30 snapshot

    Level 30
    Str 24
    Dex 40
    Con 52
    Int 21
    Wis 74
    Cha 38
    Hp 1144
    Hamp 166
    Sp 2408
    Pos 858
    Pos spell crit 28
    Spell crit mult 30
    Aura ticks for 250
    AC 66
    Fort 67
    Reflex 54
    Will 78
    Bab 21/30
    Doubleshot 20
    Ranged attack speed 22
    Sr 0
    Fort 175
    Prr 141
    Mrr 65

    Skills
    Heal 71
    Diplo 57
    Umd 44
    Jump 42

    Ap
    40 radiant. aura, cure focus, core4
    27 aa. Paralyzers
    8 ds. Imp weapon fin, empathy
    5 human. Rp boost, hamp

    Level 30 gear
    Head halcyonia
    Neck l.hypnotic pendant w good luck
    Eyes rng30 enchant6 insight3 insspot10
    Trinket l.symbol w fest wis globe of true blood
    Body platemail of celestial avenger w ff
    Cloak mysterious w str7
    Bracers l.slavers 17wis4 devotion185
    Belt l.slavers 17con4 resist14
    Ring1 l.prowess
    Ring2 l.slavers 17cha4 umd7
    Boots l.devil commander
    Gloves cc34 dex15 hamp61 insdevotion79 draconic soul gem
    Quiver epic dynamistic
    Bow LGS pos150 inswis7

    Paralyzers
    20 + wis mod + enchant spell bonuses
    20 base
    32 wis
    6+3 goggles
    2. Pendant
    4 Paralyzer, smiter, banisher, terror
    3 Twist enchant specialist
    3 Cleric domain trickery
    2 Feat. sf Enchant and greater
    75 total

    Notes
    Realize I didn't have a gearset for the new vish
    Same as the old vish, just some ap and hp changes
    Included detail on paralyzers. Only thing could make them higher is higher wisdom. Maxed as I can get it.
    This is my hella max wisdom enchant build. Notice no AC. But decent prr. So he takes hit but aura keeps him alive. But really he can paralyze anything. Tested reaper 10.
    Also, running cure focus. With 858 standing pos means heals through the roof.
    He still ain't getting no play time. Too busy running Kil as aasimar testing. But with ravenloft he will saddle up. Don't know where Kil will be in the cycle when it hits. Either way I am prepared.
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    Considering making one of these right now with the free Level 10 Vet Status event going on.

    Given that you'd be able to start at level 10, do you think it'd be better to go Ranger 1 instead of Cleric 1 to get some relatively free Skillpoints out of the deal?

    Ranger 'starting gear' for starting at 10 also gets you a set of character-bound 30% movespeed boots for free, which seems like a good deal (though you'd be able to get those just by taking a Ranger level).

    Leaning towards making an Aasimar. Any results on the testing on that you mentioned?

    This build concept sounds almost exactly like what I was looking for (except I'd prefer Repeating Crossbows, I know that's not an option with the game at current).

    Thanks for putting this together!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzierSage View Post
    Considering making one of these right now with the free Level 10 Vet Status event going on.

    Given that you'd be able to start at level 10, do you think it'd be better to go Ranger 1 instead of Cleric 1 to get some relatively free Skillpoints out of the deal?

    Ranger 'starting gear' for starting at 10 also gets you a set of character-bound 30% movespeed boots for free, which seems like a good deal (though you'd be able to get those just by taking a Ranger level).

    Leaning towards making an Aasimar. Any results on the testing on that you mentioned?

    This build concept sounds almost exactly like what I was looking for (except I'd prefer Repeating Crossbows, I know that's not an option with the game at current).

    Thanks for putting this together!
    I'd go as built for role playing
    Start a cleric, end a cleric
    But really, with 12 int, that 3 skill pt
    So heal, Umd, jump
    Eventually with tomes you get more, so diplo
    And you only go 4 ranger, so at 10,
    The split 5/4/1
    Can scroll raise dead barely
    But good dps as ranger with bow, and cc

    Run speed up to you, 30% is best
    I have rng ff boots at 10, so I'm covered

    Ya, on aasimar,
    Make great extra heal if wis build,
    Which this is
    Need 7 ap for regen loh
    Very worth it, would be extra sweetness in cycle
    Cocoon, heal, loh
    Tho I use it as self heal in reaper
    Because at 74x30 is 2200 x40% is 900. Awesom self heal
    For emergencies, still got aura

    And as for repeater,
    That would be arti cleric build,
    Which I haven't done
    Could be done, just substitute arty for ranger
    But you lose paralyzers
    And this is bestest cc build,
    So you're choice

    Good luck on running it,
    Let me know
    Vishantii (the bird man)
    Kil (heroic and epic completionist)

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    Default Retirement ceremony

    Ok, Vishs time is up
    It's retirement time
    This paralyzer build has been a faithful steed
    And I have kept the jokers strong
    But the itch has to be scratched
    I have came up with a new build
    More or less pure caster
    Vish the Imploder
    Don't know what to do
    Guild is the silver flame jokers
    Guess the joke is on the silver flame now
    Bows were so 2017
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    Bumping this thread
    Have learned a lot in last couple years
    Went to a new build for vish,
    The bird man in cleric

    But I'm working on a fvs aa
    Divine intervention in fvs,
    And wanted to revisit what kind of gear I used
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