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    Default The Elven Steel Maiden ( AC Fighter )

    I recently rebuilt my fighter to be a chew toy for a nasty puppy.

    She has performed well in LE hound. After a few people asked about the build I figured that I would write it up and redirect them here.

    So without much further ado .... I present Deijora the Elven Steel Maiden.

    Steel Maiden
    16/3/1 Fighter/Paladin/Wizard
    Lawful Good Elf

    Elf: Dragonmark of Shadow for Displacement
    16 Fighter : Tactical Supremacy
    3 Paladin: +11 to Saves, Double Dip some defender type enhancements. +5 AC from Aura
    1 Wizard: Extend the Dragonmark ( Lasts 6 mins at 30 ) and +10% AC from Improved Mage Armor in EK.

    Stats of note:
    372 AC
    135 Intimidate
    60 UMD
    1800 HP
    19% Dodge
    104 Dire Charge DC
    Extended Displacement 4x6 minutes.
    205 Heal Amp

    As I collect more gear these numbers may change.

    ** The Enhancements listed are not how I run this character in regular questing. I put them this way just for tanking hound. Normally I run with a lot more in Vanguard. I also sometimes slip in some Harper for KTA **

    Gear:
    Armor: Platemail of the Celestial Avenger
    Helmet: LGS Charisma Skills/ Mythic Emerald Gaze
    Neck: Epic Lion's Mane
    Trinket: Epic Litany of the Dead
    Cloak: Mysterious Cloak
    Belt: Lootgen Hasty of Natural Armor/ Legendary Animated Rope
    Ring: Circle of Malevolence / Legendary Ring of Prowess
    Ring: Lootgen CHA 15 DEX 14
    Boots: Blessed Travels
    Gloves: Lootgen Stun, Heal Amp
    Bracers: Lootgen CON 13 Protection 10

    I have other gear as well that I swap on for when I don't need all of the AC.

    Weapons:
    LGS War Hammer. Only to T2 right now. Will be triple positive.
    Thunderforged War Hammer

    Yes I know ... Khopesh is better. But I like Hammers. And Hammers do not cost a feat.


    Level Order

    1. Fighter. . . . .6. Fighter. . . . 11. Fighter. . . . 16. Fighter
    2. Wizard. . . . . 7. Fighter . . . .12. Fighter . . . .17. Fighter
    3. Paladin . . . . 8. Fighter . . . .13. Fighter . . . .18. Fighter
    4. Paladin . . . . 9. Fighter . . . .14. Fighter . . . .19. Fighter
    5. Paladin . . . .10. Fighter . . . .15. Fighter . . . .20. Fighter



    Stats
    . . . . . . . .28pt. . .32pt. . .34pt. . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
    . . . . . . . .----. . .----. . .----. . .---- . . ---- . . --------
    Strength. . . . 10 . . . 14 . . . 15 . . . 16. . . .+6. . . .4: STR
    Dexterity . . . 16 . . . 16 . . . 16 . . . 16. . . .+6. . . .8: STR
    Constitution. . 14 . . . 14 . . . 14 . . . 14. . . .+6. . . 12: STR
    Intelligence. . 14 . . . 14 . . . 14 . . . 14. . . .+6. . . 16: STR
    Wisdom. . . . . .8 . . . .8 . . . .8 . . . .8. . . .+6. . . 20: STR
    Charisma. . . . 12 . . . 12 . . . 12 . . . 12. . . .+6. . . 24: STR
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28: STR


    Skills
    . . . . . F. W .P. P .P. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F. F
    . . . . . 1. 2 .3. 4 .5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent . . .3. 3 .1. 1 . . . .1½ 1½ 1½ 1½ 1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .1 .23
    Intim . . 4. . . . . . . 3. 3. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
    Heal. . . 1. . . . 2 .2. . . . . . . . . . ½. ½. ½. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1½ 13
    UMD . . . 2. ½ .½. ½ .½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. ½. . .11
    Jump. . . 4. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
    Tumble. . 1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1
    . . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
    . . . . .16. 4 .4. 4 .4. 4. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 6. 6. 6. 6. 6. 6
    . . . . .16. 4 .4. 4 .4. 4. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 5. 6. 6. 6. 6. 6. 6



    Feats

    .1. . . . : Power Attack
    .1 Fighter: Cleave
    .2 Wizard : Extend Spell
    .3. . . . : Past Life: Fighter
    .3 Deity. : Follower of: Sovereign Host
    .6. . . . : Least Dragonmark: Shadow
    .6 Fighter: Great Cleave
    .8 Fighter: Shield Mastery
    .9. . . . : Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
    10 Fighter: Stunning Blow
    12. . . . : Dodge
    12 Fighter: Improved Shield Mastery
    14 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
    15. . . . : Combat Expertise
    16 Fighter: Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning
    18. . . . : Tactical Mastery
    18 Fighter: Mobility
    20 Fighter: Tactical Supremacy
    21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic . : Bulwark of Defense
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic . : Heavy Armor Champion
    28 Destiny: Epic Skill Focus: Intimidate
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge
    30 Epic . : Greater Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning
    30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea


    Spells

    Wizard
    1. Jump, Shield, Protection from Evil


    Enhancements (80 AP)

    Stalwart Defender (41 AP)
    • Toughness, Stalwart Defense, Overbalance
      1. Stalwart Defensive Mastery III, Threatening Countenance III
      2. Stalwart Shield Mastery III, Armor Expertise III
      3. Strong Defense III, Shield Expertise III, Strength
      4. Swift Defense, Hardy Defense III, Reinforced Armor III, Strength
      5. Block and Cut III, Tenacious Defense III, Reinforced Shield III

    Elf (14 AP)
    • Elven Accuracy, Elven Dexterity
      1. Phiarlan Dragonmark Focus III, Arcane Fluidity III
      2. Lesser Dragonmark of Shadow, Enchantment Lore I
      3. Greater Dragonmark of Shadow

    Sacred Defender (11 AP)
    • Holy Bastion
      1. Extra Lay On Hands I, Sacred Armor Mastery III
      2. Bulwark Aura III, Sacred Shield Mastery III

    Vanguard (7 AP)
    • To the Fore!, Shield Combat I
      1. Shield Specialization, Armor Training III

    Eldritch Knight (Wizard) (7 AP)
    • Eldritch Strike
      1. Improved Mage Armor III, Battlemage III



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    I didnt break down the Epic Destinies I used because it is just Sentinel. Pick all the AC bonuses. Twist in stuff that makes you survive longer.

    So, That is the build. If you like it feel free to emulate it. Also if you have questions about it feel free to ask.
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    Default Little update. Now improved with Cannith crafted and Slave Lord gear.

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    What shield(s) do you use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vish View Post
    What shield(s) do you use?
    There are 3 shields that I use.

    1. Devil's Defense -- Best AC
    2. Breaker of Bodies -- Best Damage
    3. Tireless Aid -- Best Cocoons + Wood so rust monsters and slimes don't eat it.
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    Sweet.

    How many martial past lives you have ?

    With that 375 - 400 ac, how often would you say dangerous mobs like elite Sorjek or Shroud Kitty or Devil hit you ?

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    The suggested starting stats for the 28-point build are fairly bad. If you decreased starting con to 12, increased starting str to 14 and spent the first 2 levelups on con you would be at net +2 con with no downside except having 2 less con at levels 1-3 and 1 less con at levels 4-7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PainStealer View Post
    Excuse me good sir, but maybe you forgot the gear layout herr or in the OP

    In case u wanna share, ofc xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fecerak View Post
    The suggested starting stats for the 28-point build are fairly bad. If you decreased starting con to 12, increased starting str to 14 and spent the first 2 levelups on con you would be at net +2 con with no downside except having 2 less con at levels 1-3 and 1 less con at levels 4-7.
    Really I didn't consider the 28 point build. And yes doing the swap you have suggested would work nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wipey View Post
    Sweet.

    How many martial past lives you have ?

    With that 375 - 400 ac, how often would you say dangerous mobs like elite Sorjek or Shroud Kitty or Devil hit you ?
    I have all 9 martial past lives done. The most testing I've done is against LE Xyzzy. She seems to hit me about 10% of the time.
    Last edited by PainStealer; 11-24-2016 at 09:10 AM. Reason: lol oops 9 not 12 martial past lives
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    Quote Originally Posted by psykopeta View Post
    Excuse me good sir, but maybe you forgot the gear layout herr or in the OP

    In case u wanna share, ofc xD
    Sure

    Head: Hardened Hide - Set Bonus
    Goggles: Mentau
    Trinket: Slave Lords - Set Bonus
    Armor: Executioner - Set Bonus
    Cloak: Slave Master - Set Bonus
    Necklace: Griffin / Warrior's Focus
    Bracer: Cannith crafted - Shelter/Resist/Intimidate
    Ring1: Ring of Prowess
    Ring2: slave lord crafted - Strength/Deception/Stun/Quality Strength - Set Bonus
    Boots: Blessed Travels
    Belt: Cannith crafted - Constitution/Parrying/Insightful Strength
    Gloves: Cannith crafted - Doublestrike/Healing Amplification/Insightful Dexterity


    ** 5 Piece slave lords might bonus **

    I still need to slot a Charisma 8 augment somewhere for 4 more Intim/Saves but that has been a low priority. Working on gathering more Slave Lord materials for another character.
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    That is an impressive build - what's more, I already have most of the items you list in your inventory. What's your AC like through most of the heroic journey? Can we get a breakdown on AC?
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    Default I have a new question for you now -

    Once character copy gets back up - any chance you can import this character over, and see how it's AC handles the new Reaper Difficulty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziindarax View Post
    Once character copy gets back up - any chance you can import this character over, and see how it's AC handles the new Reaper Difficulty?
    Sure thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PainStealer View Post
    There are 3 shields that I use.

    1. Devil's Defense -- Best AC
    2. Breaker of Bodies -- Best Damage
    3. Tireless Aid -- Best Cocoons + Wood so rust monsters and slimes don't eat it.
    Looking at this now, I am wondering - Why Devil's Defense over Terminus? Effect-wise they're the same shield except Terminus has a higher ac than Devil's Defense.

    I am also wondering - what of the armor class break down, any chance we can get a break down of all sources of armor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziindarax View Post
    Looking at this now, I am wondering - Why Devil's Defense over Terminus? Effect-wise they're the same shield except Terminus has a higher ac than Devil's Defense.

    I am also wondering - what of the armor class break down, any chance we can get a break down of all sources of armor?
    Terminus is a Tower Shield. Tower shields have two problems. First they cap your dexterity. Second they cap your dodge bonus. Therefore your armor class would be lower because you would cap your dexterity bonus at a much lower number. You would also have a lower dodge bonus. With my current gear setup the build enjoys a 19 maximum dexterity bonus. If I recall correctly with a tower shield this drops to 10. So not only is the AC less the build would loose 9% dodge. In my opinion, for a defense oriented character tower shields are a poor choice.

    As far as breaking down all sources of AC. I am sorry I am far too lazy to do that. Martial Past Lives, Armor, Gear Mods, Enhancements, Etc..
    Last edited by PainStealer; 10-13-2016 at 08:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PainStealer View Post
    Sure thing.
    I tried to get onto lam tonight to test it out. Unfortunately the UI of the transfer screen seems to be bugged out. I am unable to select the correct options to transfer.
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    Thanks for posting!

    I see you have Bulwark of Defense on the list.

    I always that this feat was underwhelming - did you consider others?

    Spring Attack for +2 dodge or something?

    Thanks for sharing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Propane View Post
    Thanks for posting!

    I see you have Bulwark of Defense on the list.

    I always that this feat was underwhelming - did you consider others?

    Spring Attack for +2 dodge or something?

    Thanks for sharing!
    Sure feel free to take something else if you like. If taking something else I would gravitate toward one of the many feats that grant another +2 Melee power. I can hit my dodge cap (19) without spring attack.

    Dodge Feat +3
    Mobility +2
    Shadar Kai past Lives +3
    Blessed Travels +12

    Totals to +20.

    However if I did not have the shadar kai lives then I would certainly consider spring attack.
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    I think I can make a dwarf AC + CON build pure fighter with capacity to switch destinies quickly to be a reaper tank. Maybe not even an enhancement reset.

    Since you have played around more with AC builds, I'd love to pick your mind on it.

    Planning on picking the THF line + dwarven axe / THF axe route. Doing a CON to damage build with max CON.

    Max dodge 18
    Dwarf armored mast 3
    Fighter defensive mast 3
    Fencing master 2
    Mobility 2
    Armored agility 2
    Quality armored 2
    Native armor 4
    AC on DPS blitzed mode: 223 AC
    Base 10
    Past lives
    Martial (x5) 25
    Dwarf
    Armored mastery 3
    Fighter defensive mast 3
    Stalwart
    Native armor 38
    using SD plus armor 57
    Shield 0
    using stalward
    using dwarf
    Other
    Deflection (Slavers) 14
    Dexterity 18
    Natural armor
    Normal (Slavers) 14
    Insight 5
    Bulkward 4
    Riposte 6
    Tenser 6
    Stance multiplier 1.1
    Shielding in blitz without US twist - 263 AC
    Base 10
    Past lives
    Martial 25
    Dwarf
    Armored mastery 3
    F defensive mast 3
    Stalwart
    Native armor 38
    using SD plus armor 57
    Shield 20
    using stalward 30
    using dwarf 34.5
    Other
    Deflection (Slavers) 14
    Dexterity 18
    Natural armor
    Normal (Slavers) 14
    Insight 5
    Bulkward 4
    Riposte 8
    Tenser 6
    Stance multiplier 1.1
    Shielding in US - 320 AC
    Base 10
    Past lives
    Martial 25
    Dwarf
    Armored mastery 3
    F defensive mast 3
    Stalwart
    Native armor 38
    using SD plus armor 57
    Shield 20
    using stalward 30
    using dwarf 51.75
    shield prowes 45
    Other
    Deflection (Slavers) 14
    Dexterity 18
    Natural armor
    Normal (Slavers) 14
    Insight 5
    Bulkward 4
    Riposte 8
    Hardened 15
    Tenser 6
    Stance multiplier 1.1

    Questions for you:

    1 - Do you know how the stacking of shield enhancements work? For example, dwarf has +15%, stalwart 50%, US +50%.

    Is then the AC of a shield BASE*1.15*1.5*1.5?

    2 - Have I missed any obvious gear or build choices to increase my AC?


    Many thanks in advance!
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    Some additional details:

    HPs: 2100 (no LGS, blitz, 86 CON)

    HPs: 2600 (no LGS, US, still assuming 86 CON)

    HPs: 3200 (LGS, US, still assuming 86 CON)

    What I am wondering is how much extra you get from going all ham on the AC. Is it really needed, the extra 10% from wizard?

    If you check the miss chances addition, it is rather low, even for the highest CR mobs (sorjek).
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