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    Default Tainted Scholar - Penetrating Blast - Damage Die question

    Regarding the extra damage die for Tainted Scholar - Penetrating Blast: Is this die added whether or not the stance is active? The phrasing makes it sound like it might be. At level 8, 1 die should be noticeable. I did some minimal testing and it was inconclusive. Took some samples before adding and after adding (then with/without stance active). Samples between all showed little variance.At early heroic levels, 1 die would be worth 2 AP. Maybe not so much in epic. Not sure the if 2 AP is worth a placebo effect or not.

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    most likely: the die is added while in that stance (the same way a die is removed while in chain stance).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyprine View Post
    most likely: the die is added while in that stance (the same way a die is removed while in chain stance).
    But, Eldritch Blast Shape: Chain: description says "While active you have -1 Eldritch Blast Pact damage die"

    While, Penetrating Blast says "You gain +1d6 base Eldritch Blast damage"

    This implies that you get the extra die whether its active or not, but wouldn't surprise me either way.

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    Thanks for the feedback. Interesting that I didn't see any improvement even when in stance.

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    Not that an improvement is always going to be immediately obvious. 4 to 24 damage being added (assuming 300 spell power) is kinda significant. But may not always be visible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Knight View Post
    Not that an improvement is always going to be immediately obvious. 4 to 24 damage being added (assuming 300 spell power) is kinda significant. But may not always be visible.
    At level 8, adding 1 die should be observable if not easily noticed. The die added at level 9 was. And... unfortunately, my relevant spell power was not quite to 300 when I tested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyy View Post
    Regarding the extra damage die for Tainted Scholar - Penetrating Blast: Is this die added whether or not the stance is active?
    This is only added while the stance is active. We'll look into clarifying the text. Thanks for the feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    This is only added while the stance is active. We'll look into clarifying the text. Thanks for the feedback.
    Thanks for the official response. Very much appreciated.

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    Another question about penetrating blast. What boosts its damage? I'd assume nothing or is it still based on force?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerthyn View Post
    Another question about penetrating blast. What boosts its damage? I'd assume nothing or is it still based on force?
    I would think force spell power does similar to how it boost Blade Barriers (Slash) and Cometfall (Bludge). I also think Spike Growth (Pierce) and Wild Shots (Pierce) also boosted by force, but not certain on that as not used them in a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerthyn View Post
    Another question about penetrating blast. What boosts its damage? I'd assume nothing or is it still based on force?
    Penetrating Blast itself boosts the damage by 10%. Force spellpower also boosts the Force component of Eldritch Blast. The Pact damage component is only boosted by the appropriate elemental spellpower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerthyn View Post
    Another question about penetrating blast. What boosts its damage? I'd assume nothing or is it still based on force?
    Yes, boosted by Force (Impulse/Kinetic Lore) items etc.


    Edit: personally though fwiw: I've found that on my Great Old One w/Tainted Scholar & Soul Eater trying to equip three (Force, Alignment, Acid) Spellpower & Lore varieties to be a gearing nightmare so I just stick with Utterdark - that way I only need Acid & Alignment (Rock Boots & Caster stick).
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    I would still like to see... Something that tests character versatility and player adaptability rather than character focus strength and quest knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PermaBanned View Post
    Yes, boosted by Force (Impulse/Kinetic Lore) items etc.


    Edit: personally though fwiw: I've found that on my Great Old One w/Tainted Scholar & Soul Eater trying to equip three (Force, Alignment, Acid) Spellpower & Lore varieties to be a gearing nightmare so I just stick with Utterdark - that way I only need Acid & Alignment (Rock Boots & Caster stick).
    Thanks.

    Yup i do the same. Much easier gear wise with Utterdark always on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyy View Post
    At level 8, adding 1 die should be observable if not easily noticed. The die added at level 9 was. And... unfortunately, my relevant spell power was not quite to 300 when I tested.
    Yeah, it can be. Unless of course you get a string of bad luck with low to average rolls. On lam I was barely noticing damage increases as I leveled. After getting multiple of them I did notice, but any single die addition was easy to miss. On live however I am immediately noticing an improvement each time I get another die of damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    This is only added while the stance is active. We'll look into clarifying the text. Thanks for the feedback.
    Thanks for the clarification. This is a good thing to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PermaBanned View Post
    Yes, boosted by Force (Impulse/Kinetic Lore) items etc.


    Edit: personally though fwiw: I've found that on my Great Old One w/Tainted Scholar & Soul Eater trying to equip three (Force, Alignment, Acid) Spellpower & Lore varieties to be a gearing nightmare so I just stick with Utterdark - that way I only need Acid & Alignment (Rock Boots & Caster stick).
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerthyn View Post
    Thanks.

    Yup i do the same. Much easier gear wise with Utterdark always on.
    Why not use a staff instead of a one handed then? I'm always finding staves that boost several aspects. My fav so far are ones that boost acid/force and then have either Potency for everything else or Lore for something I'm dealing. If I can't get that I typically run with two scepters equipped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Knight View Post
    Why not use a staff instead of a one handed then? I'm always finding staves that boost several aspects. My fav so far are ones that boost acid/force and then have either Potency for everything else or Lore for something I'm dealing. If I can't get that I typically run with two scepters equipped.
    Starting at 12 I use Fanion, and at 26 I'll be using the Libram, so boots & sticks for me until I find better
    I would still like to see... Something that tests character versatility and player adaptability rather than character focus strength and quest knowledge.
    I play the quests for the content of the quests not just as an XP/min merry-go-round.
    Actual play experience is worth infinitely more than theorycrafting...

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    That's a very good reason. Didn't know bout the shield. My char who's working on the shield... can never get any pieces of it. Or anything else from the area. I had to buy the tapestry fragments to get my helm.

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    The orb from ToEE is really nice too with the two aug slots you can slot two spell powers on it, I've got one set up for lv 8, 12 and 16 with tiered spell power augments. Using green steel at 12 for acid and switching to rock boots at 13. I've force and radiance slotted in the orb though I usually use utterdark it's nice to have the option.

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