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    Default Melee Power is NOT affecting Sneak Attack damage: Bug or WAI?

    I had really high hopes about Melee Power affecting SA damage but looks like it doesn't. You are just killing TWF Rogues in this way and you not really helping Shadowdancer to get on par with the other EDs.

    Is this a BUG like I hope so? Or are you actually planning to kill the TWF style and heavy SA classes like Assassins?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    I had really high hopes about Melee Power affecting SA damage but looks like it doesn't. You are just killing TWF Rogues in this way and you not really helping Shadowdancer to get on par with the other EDs.

    Is this a BUG like I hope so? Or are you actually planning to kill the TWF style and heavy SA classes like Assassins?
    I hope this is a bug.

    (I also hope that one day Sneak Attacks will gain bonus damage from Hide/Move Silently.)
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    Blitz, which was technically a source of melee power used to affect SA damage (just as dmg boosts did), so I assume it's either a bug or a sneak nerf. Either way, if it stays like that, it puts rogs at a huge disadvantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoda View Post
    Blitz, which was technically a source of melee power used to affect SA damage (just as dmg boosts did), so I assume it's either a bug or a sneak nerf. Either way, if it stays like that, it puts rogs at a huge disadvantage.
    I hope it is a bug but.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoda View Post
    Blitz, which was technically a source of melee power used to affect SA damage (just as dmg boosts did), so I assume it's either a bug or a sneak nerf. Either way, if it stays like that, it puts rogs at a huge disadvantage.
    Good point. I see no reason why Melee Power shouldn't affect Sneak Attack. Assassins and just Rogs in general are going dying slowly.

    Actually, not that slowly.


    EDIT: Master's Blitz not affecting Sneak Attack as well now, Zoda just tested in game. This GOTTA BE a HUGE bug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    Good point. I see no reason why Melee Power shouldn't affect Sneak Attack. Assassins and just Rogs in general are going dying slowly.

    Actually, not that slowly.


    EDIT: Master's Blitz not affecting Sneak Attack as well now, Zoda just tested in game. This GOTTA BE a HUGE bug.
    If it's bugged, Master's Blitz wouldn't effect sneak attack damage, as it just adds more theoretically bugged melee power.

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    Its definitely a bug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey_Archer View Post
    Its definitely a bug.
    Any official word on that?
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    This is something we'd like to get more feedback on, based on actual damage output and testing on Lamannia if possible. The initial implementation does not have Melee Power affecting Sneak Attack damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    This is something we'd like to get more feedback on, based on actual damage output and testing on Lamannia if possible. The initial implementation does not have Melee Power affecting Sneak Attack damage.
    We'd love to give more feedback but with a full brainstorm session with a Developer. This goes hand in hand with the TWF problem that is affecting the game.

    Can you maybe open an official thread about this issue (yes, I think it's a pretty big issue) or can we just talk about it here? I feel an official thread on Lamannia would be great. Otherwise I'll just post them here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    This is something we'd like to get more feedback on, based on actual damage output and testing on Lamannia if possible. The initial implementation does not have Melee Power affecting Sneak Attack damage.
    OP: Bug it. Melee power should affect all melee sources of damage. Or else it is not melee power. It is basic combat buffing for any non-standard-attack abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    This is something we'd like to get more feedback on, based on actual damage output and testing on Lamannia if possible. The initial implementation does not have Melee Power affecting Sneak Attack damage.
    I feel that SA (and ALL sources of melee damage) should be affected by Melee Power. My ranger/rogue currently wears slightly-less-than-optimal gear simply because it has SA damage on it, and his bluff attack means he gets SA 4 out of every 6 seconds, even while soloing, and this not scaling with MP seriously puts a crimp in its relative damage output, to the point where I'd be better off slotting something else.

    Of course, I also still feel that releasing MP without a full pass of *all* enhancements, feats, and items is a bad idea to begin with. As is releasing MP without implementing RANGED Power at the same time. MP should be shelved until you can devote the time to do it properly.
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    It's a bug; Melee Power should affect Sneak Attack damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    It's a bug; Melee Power should affect Sneak Attack damage.

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    good to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    It's a bug; Melee Power should affect Sneak Attack damage.

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    Great to know, thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    It's a bug; Melee Power should affect Sneak Attack damage.

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    All sneak dice including ranged sneak attack? I doubt it would be too powerful given the slow hit rate compared to TWF
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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    It's a bug; Melee Power should affect Sneak Attack damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Severlin View Post
    It's a bug; Melee Power should affect Sneak Attack damage.Sev~
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    Quote Originally Posted by G_Lich View Post
    All sneak dice including ranged sneak attack? I doubt it would be too powerful given the slow hit rate compared to TWF
    I would expect Melee Power to only affect melee sneak attack, and Ranged Power (once implemented) to affect ranged sneak attack.

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