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    Default What kind of a bonus are Devastating Critical and Headsman's Chop?

    Are they a competence bonus to crit multiplier? Or would they stack with swashbuckling?

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    Did you check the wiki?

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Legendary_Dreadnought

    Nobody has yet provided proof of a bonus that doesn't stack with Devastating Critical yet, thus we're not entirely certain what type of bonus it is.

    As for your question:
    Pulverizer : Passive Bonus: Increases the critical threat range of bludgeoning weapons you equip by 1 (competence bonus). Does not work with Handwraps.
    Swashbuckler provides a competance bonus to: Light Mace, Light Hammer, Kama, Sickle, Dart, Shuriken, Throwing Axe, Throwing Hammer: +2 Threat Range, +1 Multiplier

    As they're the same typed bonus, Pulverizer is rendered completely obsolete by Swashbuckler, if you are using one of the above weapons.


    I'd suggest instead looking into handaxes:
    Swashbuckler gives a +2 competence bonus to hand axe crit range, whilst Legendary dreadnaught provides a +2 bonus to crit multiplier on 19/20, the two options work together quite nicely.

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    AFAIK, all of the +1x 19-20 crit multiplier bonuses will stack: i.e., Overwhelming Crit, Devastating Crit, Master / GM Earth Stance, Headman's Chop; so an axe monk / kensei can hit 19-20 x7 crits. [EDIT: So can a Frenzied Berserker with Focused Wrath.] They also appear to stack with the multiplier bonuses from Knife Spec, Staff Spec, and Swashbuckling.

    OTOH, most of the crit range bonuses are competence bonuses and don't stack: e.g., Swashbuckling, Pulverizer, Keen Edge, Knife / Staff Spec. EDIT: The only exceptions AFAIK are Critical Rage (Ravager) and Celestial Champion (Div Crusader), which appear to stack with everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    OTOH, most of the crit range bonuses are competence bonuses
    Ravager Critical Rage isn't listed as a Competence bonus... do you know for sure what it is?

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    [QUOTE=fTdOmen;5403140]Did you check the wiki?

    http://ddowiki.com/page/Legendary_Dreadnought

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    I did check the wiki but I wasn't asking about pulverizer. In fact, the fact that pulverizer was specifically detailed but the other's weren't is what led me to ask.

    That's awesome, though. Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabbler View Post
    Ravager Critical Rage isn't listed as a Competence bonus... do you know for sure what it is?
    It's uber dps - sod all hjealing type.
    Stacks with Pulverizer.
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    If it stacks with Pulverizer, then it isn't a competence bonus. Do you know if it stacks with Celestial Champion, too?

    Amending my first post.

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    No idea sir, I would build barbie specifically for uber blitzage. It didn't work out that well so she's Pally now and can't test Crusader.
    Coronations/ Mornhs again for uber smites, will see how Holy Sword work with LD. Might switch to khops.

    Anyway, you can clearly see 13- 20 Mornhs here.
    Some discussion in that " solo WGU pure Barb" thread too I think.
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    My guess on ravager critical rage would be rage bonus.
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