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    Default Stop Arguing About 3BC Already

    There's an important distinguishing point to make here. The following argument has played out between two camps at least 10 times since 3BC's release:

    John: 3BC sucks!
    Jane: 3BC rocks!
    John: I got everything I needed and it was easy to complete on the hardest difficulty on the first day
    Jane: The airship fights are awesome and I really like the aesthetics
    John: You're wrong
    Jane: No you

    At first glance it appears that John and Jane have mutually exclusive opinions which cannot be reconciled. On closer examination, John and Jane are not actually disagreeing. John is interested in things like loot, XP, and a challenging experience. Jane enjoys new combat modes and visuals. So when someone states that they love/hate 3BC, consider first the yardstick that they are using to measure 3BC. Arguing that OVERALL 3BC sucks for x, y, z reasons is reasonable, but trying to tell someone else their priorities are "wrong" is an exercise in futility. The converse is true, trying to tell someone that the novelty of flower-sniffing contributes to content staying power is an oxymoron.
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    I think you're wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishr View Post
    OVERALL 3BC sucks for x, y, z reasons is reasonable
    You're wrong. X, Y, and Z rock. 3BC sucks because of A, B, and C.

    That is all.
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    Meanwhile on earth, there are true artists creating masterpieces such as "Mega shark vs Mecha shark".

    Synopsis: A massive shark attacks another shark which is equally or even more massive and they fight. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azarddoze View Post
    Meanwhile on earth, there are true artists creating masterpieces such as "Mega shark vs Mecha shark".

    Synopsis: A massive shark attacks another shark which is equally or even more massive and they fight. That is all.
    You forgot Sharknado. *cringes* I still can't believe someone spent money to make that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityTurtle View Post
    You forgot Sharknado. *cringes* I still can't believe someone spent money to make that.

    My thoughts exactly with e3BC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelvanderSeries6 View Post
    My thoughts exactly with e3BC.
    Yup...

    e3BC, the Sharknado of DDO.

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    stop arguing about people arguing already. forum is a place of exchange of views (within forum guidelines).

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    Too much drama on the forums about 3BC, I agree with you. Some people trying to show their opinions are gold. I think some dudes in this forum (exclusively th ones that have posts of mine) are trying to be politicians, having their opinions raised to the heavens by their own fanboys, sounds more like ego, meh.

    If the devs, or cordo or whoever look on the forums for opinions they will see its like 50% like/50% dislikes, and that's it. I posted in a topic here 3 days ago, I came back today and there are 8 more pages full of ****. I have my opinion, you have yours, end of story.

    I totally agree with you OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishr View Post
    There's an important distinguishing point to make here. The following argument has played out between two camps at least 10 times since 3BC's release:

    John: 3BC sucks!
    Jane: 3BC rocks!
    John: I got everything I needed and it was easy to complete on the hardest difficulty on the first day
    Jane: The airship fights are awesome and I really like the aesthetics
    John: You're wrong
    Jane: No you

    At first glance it appears that John and Jane have mutually exclusive opinions which cannot be reconciled. On closer examination, John and Jane are not actually disagreeing. John is interested in things like loot, XP, and a challenging experience. Jane enjoys new combat modes and visuals. So when someone states that they love/hate 3BC, consider first the yardstick that they are using to measure 3BC. Arguing that OVERALL 3BC sucks for x, y, z reasons is reasonable, but trying to tell someone else their priorities are "wrong" is an exercise in futility. The converse is true, trying to tell someone that the novelty of flower-sniffing contributes to content staying power is an oxymoron.
    John and Jane just need to chant together..

    John: 3BC sucks!
    Jane: 3BC rocks!

    Together... 3BC sucks rocks!

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    3bc: home of bugs and inconstant traps/mobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityTurtle View Post
    You forgot Sharknado. *cringes* I still can't believe someone spent money to make that.
    Or part 2....
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    I once knew somebody called Oxy, and yes he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishr View Post
    Things.

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    Default Well this makes sence

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14

    But this is a better argument imho
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    I wish there would be less bantering as well. Welcome to the forums

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    I've finished 3BC, is 4BC coming out soon?

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    Interesting to hear that from someone with such a loaded opinion in the matter, maybe

    Quote Originally Posted by ishr
    /AFK till next update.
    would have helped your cause more, instead you're simply fueling your own oxymoron - which is 'let's create more threads to have less threads'.

    PS: Sharknado is a classic.
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    Except that I disagree with your point that we are on the same side hehe.

    I like 3BC for visuals etc. I also don't think that its too easy to get all the new items etc. So I think 3BC cove is fine in terms of how hard it is to obtain loot/difficulty and in terms visuals/audio etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityTurtle View Post
    You forgot Sharknado. *cringes* I still can't believe someone spent money to make that.
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