Last edited by NaturalHazard; 04-20-2014 at 06:55 PM.
this has been insightful. Man I suck at multitasking.
I wouldn't go out of my way to use the word, but more because I didn't want to deal with a childish outburst. But if it was the appropriate word, I'd use it. That is my choice. When you start trying to make it a case of being wrong to use the word, that is offensive. By your logic, you should have known it would be and avoided it... yet you are just fine offending, it is others offensiveness you wish to question. Funny how that double standard works.
1) Just as willing as I'd be to stand in front of an American and say that this is a fatuous thread.
2) That would depend on what the feelings I was attempting to relay. I'd probably go with the most appropriate to relay them.
3) I'm fairly sure that it wouldn't even occur to me that they would elicit a negative response. I'd apologise for giving offence just as I would however the offence was given.
4) Nope. Its not too hard to understand a negative response if they didn't know what the word meant. I'm guessing it would depend on how they had the dual citizenship.
5) Only until they understood the explanation.
Truth is, no one thinks you're smart for using words like "niggardly", you do not come across as informed, brilliant, or well versed in language, in fact, using this makes you appear as a faux intellectual and more aptly a pubescent attention seeking child that found a word in the dictionary that sounds like a "bad word" but it is not, and thus has become your new favorite word for it's shock value.
Originally Posted by Towrn
Now that I have seen this stuff I would like to ask my fellow DDO forum users to tiptoe around the use of the word coconut, and any talk about primitives in grass skirts or huts as I might get offended.
Here's a link to an argument about Intentionalism (which is what this argument seems to be really about). There are some pretty good arguments on both sides of the issue.
Originally Posted by Towrn
Just like do you think that pasty white skinned anglo-saxon was in fact Hindu or Buddhist? Talk about reaching way too far to justify anything.
There is a point when people do make culture mistakes, they say and do things that dance the line, but lets get this clear, the use of "niggardly" and the subsequent posts that followed it, reek of socially delinquent antic of trying to justify using a word they know has an incite value, calling everyone else ignorant, just as the facebook failure wanting to wear a swastika for shock value, but trying to say they are not trying to be shocking, that it's got a all this you know, deep culture history, you know.. yah.. that reeks of total BS!
But lets be honest, this is a public forum, so when we post here, the words we use, we often pick them to try and best convey our message. We are not rushed to respond like in spoken language, so, knowing that, I can either believe that the OP is intelligent and thus knew the word they were using and deliberately picked it for it's shock and incite value, or my other recourse it to believe that they really, honestly, are just socially inept that they did not see the phonetic correlation between Niggardly and this word.
Well, Much like the boy with the Swastika Ear Plugs, Which is really the most likely scenario?
While it is true, the Swastika is in fact over 3000 years old, which is older then Christ, and means love, hope, and charity, we the reader are left to decipher if the persons intent is a legitimate show of homage to the images history, or is it just some pubescent antic to get attention.
Same happens with the use of words like Niggardly.
So what do you think is the case in this little dog and pony show that has made a mess across the forums?
Originally Posted by Towrn
I am not manufacturing anything, the Intent is there to start with, I am simply trying to decipher what it is, the rest of your post continues to show the same level of defunct education in communication that you have expressed with your opening line.
Intent is everything, if you have by some defunct in education been taught otherwise, you have not been adequately informed how interpersonal communication works.
Or am I am to entertain that you believe that some Arabian Prince wants to give you a million dollars?
Maybe I can get away with saying the N word outright? Im dark enough that I might be able to pass off on some as having some african american ancestry, though some would argue I might look more latino, native america mix? Though that really is another discussion.
If someone uses a word similar to a racial slur used against me I will try and figure out what that persons intent is, even if I have a suspicion that he does intent to insult me, I will not bite on that, I will not give him the satisfaction if that's what hes really after and at the same time trying to show me up as having a chip on my shoulder and not having the knowledge about the real meaning of whatever word that is.
Play some contact sports where people try to sledge you to get under your skin and maybe get a reaction from you to get them a penalty or worse get you sent off and you have to learn some discipline. I do not like sledging and don't really take part and I think going to racial slurs is really crossing the line. But im not going to lose it and cost my team, and if im going to take retribution im going to do it in a smart way. At the end of the game I might forgive and socialize with people who might of given me a bit of a niggle but not with the people who used racial slurs, unless they gave me a sincere apology.
with my very first post to their topic.
After reading a few of their responses, I realized they knew what they were doing, and thus the benefit and the doubt went away.
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