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    Default Lord of Thorns

    The goal of this build is to be self-sufficient as well as keeping up a respectful amount of DPS. It can be built around a number of weapons, but if you want to use an exotic weapon(Khopesh, bastard sword, or dwarven waraxe), you will have to sacrifice a feat in order to do so. This build itself is focused around Celestia/Pinion.

    Halfling - 36 Point Build(Completionist) 9 Monk / 8 Fighter / 3 Favored Soul

    Stats:
    Strength(44): 14 Base + 4 Tome + 10 Item + 4 Level Ups + 1 Exceptional + 3 Exceptional + 5 Primal +1 Destiny +2 Completionist: 44
    Dexterity(30): 14 Base + 3 Tome + 2 Insightful + 9 Item + 1 Exceptional + 1 Halfling + 2 Completionist - 2 Earth Stance: 30
    Constitution(48): 16 Base + 5 Tome + 10 Item + 3 Level Ups + 1 Exceptional + 2 Insightful +3 Exceptional + 5 Primal + 3 Earth Stance + 2 Completionist: 48
    Intelligence(18): 10 Base + 3 Tome + 1 Exceptional + 2 Insightful + 2 Completionist: 18
    Wisdom(30): 12 Base + 4 Tome + 1 Exceptional + 11 Item + 2 Completionist: 30
    Charisma(30): 14 Base + 3 Tome + 1 Exceptional + 10 Item + 2 Completionist: 30

    HP:
    72 - 9 Monk
    80 - 8 Fighter
    24 - 3 Favored Soul
    25 - Heroic Durability
    10 - Draconic Vitality
    532 - Level 28(Constitution)
    21 - Toughness
    50 - Epic Toughness
    50 - Item 1
    19 - Enhancements
    60 - Destiny
    50 - Item Set
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    993 - Total
    10-30 - Barbarian Past Lives
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    1003 to 1023 - Grand Total

    Feats/Level Order:
    1(Monk) - Dragonmark of Healing -- Toughness
    2(Fighter) - Power Attack
    3(Monk) - Completionist(Dodge if not)-- Cleave
    4(Monk) - Fists of Light
    5(Fighter) - Two Weapon Fighting
    6(Fighter) - Great Cleave
    7(Fighter) - Point Blank Shot
    8(Fighter)
    9(Fighter) - Improved Two Weapon Fighting -- Rapid Shot
    10(Fighter)
    11(Fighter) - Improved Critical: Bludgeoning (Switch to Piercing at 23)
    12(Monk) - Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    13(Monk)
    14(Monk) - 10K Stars
    15(Monk) - Master of Forms
    16(Monk)
    17(Monk)
    18(FvS) - Zen Archery
    19(FvS)
    20(Fvs)
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    21 - Manyshot
    24 - Overwhelming Critical
    (26) - Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 - Epic Toughness
    (28) - Elusive Target

    Skill Focus(In Order):
    UMD
    Concentration
    Balance/Intimidate

    Enhancements:

    Halfling(12):
    Halfling Luck(1)
    Dexterity(2)
    Jorasco Dragonmarks(3)
    Lesser Dragonmark(2)
    Break out the Leeches(2)
    Greater Dragonmark(2)

    Favored Soul - Warpriest(11):
    Smite Foe(1)
    Resilience of Battle(1)
    Divine Might(3)
    Toughness(3)
    Wall of Steel(3)

    Fighter - Kensai(27):
    Kensai Focus: Light Blades(1)
    Extra Action Boost(6)
    Weapon Group Specialization(2)
    Action Boost Haste(3)
    Reed in the Wind(3)
    Improved Dodge(6)
    Ascetic Training: Agility(6)

    Fighter - Stalwart Defender(10):
    Toughness(1)
    Overbalance(1)
    Stalwart Defense(1)
    Durable Defense(3)
    Resilient Defense(1)
    Defensive Mastery(2)

    Monk - Shintao(19):
    Bastion of Purity(1)
    Protection from Tainted Creatures(1)
    Iron Hand(1)
    Restoring the Balance(2)
    Deft Strikes(6)
    Iron Skin(6)
    Conditioning(3)

    Monk - Ninja Spy(1):
    Core(1)

    Epic Destiny: Legendary Dreadnought

    Tier 1: Extra Action Boost(3/3) Strength(1/1)
    Tier 2: Momentum Swing(3/3) Improved Power Attack(1/1) Damage Boost(3/3)
    Tier 3: Lay Waste(1/1) Critical Damage(3/3)
    Tier 4: None
    Tier 5: Advancing Blows(1/1) Devastating Critical(1/1)
    Tier 6: Master's Blitz

    Twists:
    (4) Sense Weakness
    (2) Pin
    (1) Rejuvenation Cocoon
    (1) Primal Scream - Eventually with Epic Completionist

    Gear-- Item-"Bonus"(Slot):
    Armor - Flawless Dragonscale Robe (Concentration +15)
    Ring1 - EE Consuming Darkness - Seeker XII (Health +8)
    Ring2 - EE Glorious Dawn (Ins Health +2)
    Neck - EE Stolen Necklace - Accuracy IX(Power 250)
    Bracers - EE Prisoner's Manacles - Dex +9(PRR +16)(+2 Ins Dex)
    Helm - EE Con +3 White Helm (Electric Resist 40)(Fear Immunity)
    Belt - EE Skullduggery Kit - 50 HP(Deathblock)
    Boots - EE Goatskin Boots - Fortification 115%(Feather Falling)(+2 Ins Int)
    Trinket - Planar Focus of Prowess - Strengh +3
    Goggles - EE Shadowsight (True Globe)
    Cloak - Adamantine Cloak of the Wolf
    Gloves - Strength +10 Gloves of Resistance X

    ** This is a wishlist. While I have some of the gear I think this is what the build requires, any feedback on gear is very welcome.

    Weapons:
    TWF - Main Hand: Celestia Off Hand: Drow Shortsword of the Weapons Master(Stunning +10)
    THF - Sireth, Spear of the Sky (Devotion +138)
    Ranged - Pinion (Good) or Celestia in Off Hand w/ The Morning Star (Silver Slotted)

    Other Clickies:
    Amara's Belt - Greater Ardor 3
    Tokala's Belt - Greater Ardor 3
    Royal Guard Mask - Teleport 1
    Draconic Necklace - Greater Heroism 1
    Planar Gird - Greater Heroism 1
    Visor of the Flesh Render - Deathward 1
    Nyoko's Necklace - Invisibility 3
    Morah's Belt - Jump 3
    Raise Dead: x2 (Khopesh and Morningstar)
    Stoneskin: x1 (Longsword)
    Displacement: x2 (Maul and Helm)
    Divine Power: Random Item 3

    Other Bonuses:
    Tenser's Transmutation Scrolls
    Shield Wands
    Blur Wands

    Spells:
    Level 1 - Cure Light Wounds, Shield of Faith, Divine Favor, Obscuring Mist

    I think that's all. Feel free to let me know what you think about the build or anything to make it better. Also, I do not know how to do the math for saves, if someone could pull up those numbers for me so that I can put them in the post that would be very helpful.

    Thanks for Reading
    -Silver
    Last edited by SilverHeals; 03-02-2014 at 03:50 PM.

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    Some quick points that stuck out to me:

    Completionist nor Cleave are monk bonus feats so need to rework level 3 feats with that in mind.

    Alot of ranged feats without any way of adding a stat to dmg. Only suggestion is drop 10k Stars, toughness /epic toughness. Rework feats for PA/TWF/ and Zen Archery as monk bonus feats. Replace with WF: Ranged and Bow Strength. Emp Heal replacing the Epic Toughness feat.

    Maybe work in Quicken somehow. Also not sure what you're getting with 3FvS but 1 is enough for Divine Might. 2more fighter can get you the needed feat to work in quicken.

    EDIT* If you're not going for keen edge in kensai, 6 Ranger gets you much more towards what you're tying to do (I think, things are kinda all over the place) vs. the 8 fighter. Can then add another FvS level to get Amororiating Strike.

    EDIT2* Also realised you didn't pick up WF, WS, GWF so can't get Keen Edge anyway. Why the 8 Ftr?
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    Completionist is the level 3 feat no matter what, I meant to put two weapon fighting a lv 3 and switch it with cleave. Also the original way I built this was around bastard swords, but missing out on 2 feats wasn't worth it for me. I still keep the split the way it is because the feats fit.

    9 monk gets me improved evasion
    8 fighter gets me 5 feats
    3 fvs is required for resilience of battle and I want the +5 to DR

    Btw, I did plan the build on there but I don't know how to link it and I changed some things after posting

    EDIT: Thanks for pointing out me missing bow str, it's a -17 Damage on ranged than if I would've had it. Do you think an Epic Toughness Swap out would work for it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverHeals View Post
    Completionist is the level 3 feat no matter what, I meant to put two weapon fighting a lv 3 and switch it with cleave. Also the original way I built this was around bastard swords, but missing out on 2 feats wasn't worth it for me. I still keep the split the way it is because the feats fit.

    9 monk gets me improved evasion
    8 fighter gets me 5 feats
    3 fvs is required for resilience of battle and I want the +5 to DR

    Btw, I did plan the build on there but I don't know how to link it and I changed some things after posting

    EDIT: Thanks for pointing out me missing bow str, it's a -17 Damage on ranged than if I would've had it. Do you think an Epic Toughness Swap out would work for it?
    You'd have to swap for Weapon Focus: Ranged as pre-req to get Bow Strength.

    8ftr = 5 feats, many of them spent on ranged.
    6rgr = 6 feats, 7 feats effectively as you get Bow Str for free without needing the weapon focus pre-req. Gain Rapid Shot, TWF, iTWF, manyshot, and precision for free, as well as ram's might and +10% off hand proc with tempest. Lose extra action boost, tempest still gets you haste boost, and +to hit and dmg when TWF.

    5DR is nice in heroics, but underwhelming in epics (even EN or EH). Nice perk to pick up on the way to amoriating strike, but hardly good enough to be a build design goal.
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    Ok thanks for all of your feedback, looks like there are a lot of flaws in the feats to fix quickly so I will take time to look into those as well as rework all of my enhancements...

    Will just let this thread die and will post a new one once it's updated and things look good in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverHeals View Post
    Also, I do not know how to do the math for saves, if someone could pull up those numbers for me so that I can put them in the post that would be very helpful.
    F/R/W Saves:

    06/02/02 - Fighter 8
    06/06/06 - Monk 9
    03/03/03 - Favored Soul 3
    04/04/04 - Epic 8
    19/10/10 - Con/Dex/Wis Modifiers
    04/04/04 - Morale (Greater Heroism)
    10/10/10 - Resistance (Resistance X item)
    01/01/01 - Sacred (Blessing of the Three Dragons)
    01/01/01 - Racial (Halfling racial trait)
    01/01/01 - Luck (Halfling Luck I enhancement)
    00/03/00 - Kensei Ascetic Trainging: Agility
    00/01/00 - Dodge (Haste)
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    55/46/42

    Something like that.
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