Hi all, you may recall our beloved fastest times record thread hosted by Hunta-EU: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...imes-Worldwide
Well with the acceptance of our petition to have an accurate quest timer reinstated, so will the record-keeping (and breaking!) resume. Hunta-EU has graciously given me the chance to continue his work and relaunch the speed record book. Much has changed since U13, when the timer last functioned correctly, and the speed record book is going to undergo a significant overhaul. Before formulating the new speed record book, I wanted to hear your input on a few points.
First of all, the thread's focus has been and will continue to focus on speed completions. There are two well-managed threads that discuss solo completions without regard to speed hosted by Vanshilar here and miscellaneous achievements hosted by AidanRyuko here. The speed record thread will not attempt to cover any of the information recorded there, as in the past, it's main objective is to track the fastest completions.
Here are proposals that will result in major changes from the original speed record book, and therefore wanted to hear feedback from people who regularly frequent the achievements section on whether they like or dislike such changes. It may be helpful to take a glance at Hunta-EU's old record thread to refresh yourself on the format:
1) Elimination of eberron quest tracking: fens, vons (except von5/6), sentinels, sands, will no longer be tracked. The reason for this is because these quests are no longer endgame, their loot is outdated, and they are rarely run other than for XP. An exception to this will be the GH series (see next question).
2) Tracking of only a subset of quests, primarily mini-chain end-quests or main-track quests. Formerly ALL level cap quests were tracked (raids and all epic quests). What I'm talking about is excluding things like impossible demands, rusted blades, GH walk-ups. There are two reasons for this. First, the number of epic cap quests is now over three times greater now than it was before, and we want to keep this record book in the readable range, instead of one gargantuan wall of text. Second, we want to focus competition on quests that are challenging and run frequently. For example we want players to be competing for the fastest EE WGU time, and not who can zergfly through EN rusted blades fastest.
3) What to do with all the speed runs between U14 and U20? I struggled greatly with this one. My proposal is to exclude all entries spanning the period where the quest timer was not working properly. This is NOT because these achievements aren't noteworthy (they definitely are), but because the focus during the broken timer period was primarily on soloing, which is already well recorded by Vanshilar, and also because verifying times would be a logistical impracticality. Quest timers were broken, and although sometimes they recorded from the first mob kill, or first quest action, this was not always the case, and it was horribly inconsistent. As such screenshots are wholly unreliable for verification purposes. If we were to consider video evidence, this is also fraught with difficulty due to different start times of videos (for example in FOT some start before entry, on entry, between entry and the dropdown, at the dropdown, etc.) and some of these videos don't show proof of the difficulty attempted. Furthermore, many deserving players achieved speedy completions but were unable to record video (due to hardware or software limitations), and excluding them would also be unfair. Lastly, the number of people attempting/pursuing speed runs spanning U14-U20 is few and far between due to the difficulty of proving you actually did the speed run and a general lack of interest as a result. Again, these are incredible achievements, however they can't be reliably compared to each other or to future runs, which is essential to record-keeping. One form of compromise would be to have an honorable mentions section for the time spanning U14-U20? Either in a separate thread or as an appendix to the main record thread.
The caveat to all of the above is the speed record book has always been powered by the participants, these are my ideas and if popular opinion differs then we will go with that. If the game changes and people's opinions change, then we will revisit the format and amend as needed. Hopefully I explained this sufficiently and if you need any clarification please let me know. Thanks again to Hunta-EU for his great body of work that made this possible.