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    Default Mah weird builds of late

    So, I recently got completionist by going to 20 in every class pure all the way. I'm not sure why, I don't plan ahead, that's for smart people.

    Once I did that, I set out to get stacking lives, but this time with MOAR MULTICLASS infused into them because I don't know why but it sounds like what the hip kiddos are doing nowadays.

    Lately I've been getting a lot of questions as my builds have taken... odd... turns.

    Wizard lives were your boring old monk 2/ wiz 18 WF am, and then the quintessential 18/2 wiz/ rog (had my DD/ search/spot in the mid 60s (yes, my spot was 63. I felt accomplished)!)

    Then... barbarian. These builds have elicited the very classy "What the **** is this piece of **** build you smelly ***** ********* *****king ******?!" to the slightly less sailor-ish "Hey Llewndyn, do you even know what multiclassing is supposed to achieve?"

    Yes, wino peeing on my house, I do.

    Anyway, I submit my barb builds, and what my (very limited) thought process behind making them was.

    1. The barbardighter (bar-bar-dEEtur)
    7 barbarian/ 7 bard/ 6 fighter
    Stats: I went Half Orc, Maxed STR and CON, and then dumped CHA. I ended up with about 600 SP and 22 songs, which is more than enough.

    I took bard to 7 for HAAAAASSSTTTEE!!!!!! My fascinate, with a perform item and putting skill points in perform, UMD and Concentration only on my bard levels, was good enough to work on all heroic content and on Eberron epics, it was at 65 with all buffs and bells whistling. Never tried it in Eveningstar, but let's assume it works there too. If you build a character off of mine and go there and it does NOT work, you missed something vague and I am in no way responsible.

    I took only the extra rages from barbarian, and the CON bonuses and THF boosts from horc and bard. I took 3 of the kensai thingies for heavy blades from fighter, and then put everything else into warchanter boosts. Me likey warchanter.

    I ended up with a 1:24 haste, which was more than enough, and my CSW hit for 150 or so at level 20. I topped out at around 685 HP, and with all rages and completionist and +3s I ended up with 66 STR for the short 10 second boosts that forumites claim is their walking around STR so I'm gonna do it too.

    Negatives: I got ATE UP at velah in EH VON 6. You are NOT a tank, and your AC and PRR can be counted on the fingers of a dead fish. My AC was 16 with all rages going, and I ignored blur/ ghostly/ moving slightly to the left because I'm a completionist so I don't move other things mo- oh look I've died.

    I got asked to heal. A LOT. I'm not sure why. 7 levels of bard is not going to solo heal anywhere. That being said, with 7 levels of bard I DID manage to solo heal Amrath elites. With deaths. LOTS and LOTS of deaths. Of mostly me. Healing is HARRRD.

    I then decided, for the life I'm currently on, initially to go 12 barb/ 8 sorc, because the idea of a melee who can self heal (I went WF) and self haste (mmmm..... HHHAAASTE!!!!) would be pretty good at self love (I love me). About level 6, I decided if I was gonna keep getting turned down for quests because "You can't give me a good reason your build is worth my time", as I've been told, I'd get turned down for a reason, so I have finally settled on 10 barb, 8 sorc, 2 fighter, or my vaunted... wait for it....

    2. Barsorcsighter (bar-sorks-EEAtur)
    10 barbarian/ 8 sorc/ 2 Fighter

    I decided on 2 fighter levels so I can get power attack and cleave for "free", and still get extend and empower, and have an AoE and haste (HAAASSTTEEE!!!). I went WF because I have a docent of acid I feel guilty for taking life to life and not using, and I'm not forward thinking enough to plan around all my gear, I just use random pieces because why not. I went THF, with fighter I'm going to dabble in greataxe bonuses if I can, I have as of yet taken NO barb enhancements, and I have taken mostly Earth Savant and Eldritch Knight enhancements so I can get that free cleave thingy from EK and also get the ability to infuse my carnifex with acid.

    Contrary to what some of my guildies and the general populace of Ghallanda believes, I have really shone in this build so far (level 12). Here are the steps I took in case you want to follow:

    1. Get completionist.
    2. Roll up a barbarian. WF, Max STR, 16 CON, put the rest into CHA.
    3. Happen to have +3 tomes at least.
    4. Go Earth Savant because like everyone on these forums you have a docent of Acid.
    5. ??
    6. Lead kill count
    7. Join PUGs and no longer lead kill count
    8. Come to the forums and declare Eldritch Knight OP

    I took earth savant because acid spells look cool and robots spewing acid spells is totally gnar. I did no thinking past that. I actually got asked what my end build this life is going to look like and TBH your guess is as good as mine, I got to completionist flying by the seat of my pants with very few hiccoughs (my helf AA thief acrobat cleric dilletante was TERR'BUL), why start planning now? This is a game. Planning is for those who carry my soul stone to worry about.

    I really like the couple of Eldritch Knight enhancements I took. I don't know that I'd want to go full on caster and take EK as my primary, it doesn't seem so good for that, but if you take arcanes as a splash to be diddled into any build so you can claim that as the reason you're piki- I mean, staying back, then it seems like a good use of one's time. So far, feat wise, I took:

    Toughness
    Power attack
    extend spell
    THF

    I plan on taking Empower, and then filling up on Improved Critical: Slashing and everything I can to make my melee stuff more tougherer. With the Earth Savant stuff, I'm level 11 and sitting at 365 HP and 1250 SP, which ain't nothin' to snot at (mostly because as soon as you're done snotting you have to clean off your computer screen and that's time consuming), and, even though I don't plan anything, let's assume by end game I will have 11890378045 HP and 49803281081923 SP, give or take 20.
    As far as gear, I have the requisite Minos, +6 con/ cha/ str, a repair* item on, my armor gives me 48 spellpower to corrosion, Conc Opp goggles, Lit II HP belt and Torc, all easily findable with about 25 minutes of spare time to run a few quests, nothing fancy. If you have questions, fire away.

    * repair - I am too lazy to read the release notes, can someone tell me if reconstruct items do ANYTHING anymore? Reconstruct/ Devotion? I know your repair/ heal now goes off of the associated skills, which I think is stupid, but it is what it is, so I got a repair +11 item, and my repair mod damage hits for like 50 right now on a normal, I put on my Scoundrel's Greatsword with a 54 reconstruct augment in it and it hits for... 53. I can't tell if I am just getting cursed with low numbers and it DOES help or what the correlation is. If someone wouldn't mind giving me the Cliff's Notes on how the new system works and if reconstruct is the new Vertigo, that'd be great.

    Well, that's all for now, I fulfilled my promise of posting my builds, let me know if there's anything you wanna know and I will go further into detail on them, and thanks for never accepting me into your groups, Majority of Ghallanda, it's made me put up my own LFMs which have led to reconnecting with some quality players from years past!
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    Your post makes me want to roll a char on Ghallanda just to run with you. Thanks for the lightheartedness.

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    Default Thanks, unbiased citizen!

    Quote Originally Posted by kmankowski View Post
    Your post makes me want to roll a char on Ghallanda just to run with you. Thanks for the lightheartedness.
    I can neither agree nor dissuade you from this goal, so I say, with a heavy heart and 11 dollars in my pocket.... potato milk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llewndyn View Post
    I can neither agree nor dissuade you from this goal, so I say, with a heavy heart and 11 dollars in my pocket.... potato milk.
    I say let everyone come to our home, it's time for the revolution, let us crash a server.......now who's with me!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llewndyn View Post
    1. Get completionist.
    2. Roll up a barbarian. WF, Max STR, 16 CON, put the rest into CHA.
    Ah, I see my problem now. I did 2 first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmankowski View Post
    Your post makes me want to roll a char on Ghallanda just to run with you. Thanks for the lightheartedness.
    If you look at the login stats, all servers have been decreasing in activity over the last 3 years - except Ghallandra which has had quite a revival in the last 6 months.

    We now know why.

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    Default We keeps it real on Ghallanda

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasparion View Post
    If you look at the login stats, all servers have been decreasing in activity over the last 3 years - except Ghallandra which has had quite a revival in the last 6 months.

    We now know why.
    Even our drama is light-hearted and interesting. I also assumed people flocked to our server to see the wonder of a certain bardcher who's fame is legendary... and I do not mean that in an insulting way.
    Lately we've gotten a lot of people displaced from sparsely populated servers interested in joining our guild, and I have the dubious honor of being the POC for said guild, which is odd. All jokes aside, do you really want a nerdorkweeb like ME being a representative of your guild?! I'm really enjoying the influx of players that seems to be hitting our servers, which was already almost full to bursting... time to upgrade Ghallanda's server to a PIII Turbine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmankowski View Post
    Thanks for the lightheartedness.
    Agreed. It's refreshing to read.
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    Default Well done indeed

    .. for attaining Completionist by going pure class for each hTR. that in MY eyes, is a achievement and deserves recognition. Playing pure builds take more effort to plan and play out. Yes, one can tweak in multi-class builds to make the journey smoother, faster etc but to maintain the integrity and to fully understand and appreciate each pure class truly deserves my vote.

    Well done, once again. You can be in my party anytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sofianna View Post
    .. for attaining Completionist by going pure class for each hTR. that in MY eyes, is a achievement and deserves recognition. Playing pure builds take more effort to plan and play out. Yes, one can tweak in multi-class builds to make the journey smoother, faster etc but to maintain the integrity and to fully understand and appreciate each pure class truly deserves my vote.

    Well done, once again. You can be in my party anytime.
    I wholeheartedly suggest, if you love this game and have free time and of course a couple guildies who are actually GOOD at this game to pull you through on your "off" lives (bard, paladin, rogue) to go out there and try it. Not the whole completionist thing, but take a life you don't know, take what you DO know and see if they mesh. One of the biggest surprises for me was ranger. In my journey to completionist, I decided after a while I would do the opposite of what I initially wanted to do (which is why I had a terrible bard and an even worse paladin), which is 16 CON, at least 14 STR then boost whatever the primary stat for that class was and go from there (AWFUL paladin that way, I started out with 14 WIS and 16 CHA and I hated it. Bard I started with Max CHA and NEVER used my entire bar up outside of the few times I had to raid heal), and on ranger I decided instead of going AA (before they got the boost) like I thought a ranger should be (Rangers have bows. Bows go pew pew. Me make ranger that shoot bow), I would go STR based Tempest and use handaxes. Not only was my DPS fantastic on him (dual axe of adaxus FTW), but in terms of not having a ton of hotbar buttons to manage that was easily my favorite life as far as simplicity goes.

    For ME, doing what I did helped me to understand a little more the ins and outs of each class; what works (for ME) and what doesn't... what I do well and what I don't. Before I embarked on this project, I wanted to be a bard or a wizard, and I dreaded barb, fighter, ranger, arti and druid. Now, I know I am a p***-poor arcane, I make a good divine but mostly because I find I LIKE healing people and then running ahead of them with a greatsword, rogues, artis are meh, but my bread and butter seems to be melees with just enough spellcasting to liven up the fisticuffs I engage in. That and druid is mad awesome and I can only imagine what a druid/monk (drunk (zing)) is gonna be. So I feel a lot more comfortable rolling up these odd splits and making them work (or if not "work", at least not "useless")... that and bring a silver of PG weapon any time you do shadow crypt. And also remember the sonic trap in Foundation of Discord is there and don't die on it (have died on it every life but rogue, arti and my wiz/rog... curse you sonic trap of Doo00o0ommm!!!?).

    This is my last barb life, and for my first fighter life I'm thinking 12 fighter/ 6 paladin/ 2 monk, the reason being I don't want to have a bunch of buttons and I feel like if there's an ability I need to hotbar it still. Maybe go WF so said build makes NO sense. I dunno...
    Ghallanda - LLEWNDYN 27 Necro Wiz (completionist) + other random uncared for players - Blackmoor Defenders
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llewndyn View Post
    Even our drama is light-hearted and interesting. I also assumed people flocked to our server to see the wonder of a certain bardcher who's fame is legendary...
    The only reason said 'bardcher' got famous is because he owned 2 of our biggest 'elitists' in a quest

    That being said, I'm disappointed that despite I'm seeminlgy (according to what you said) a player with legendary fame, I haven't been noticing that I acquired any positive reputation on our server, nor have I encountered negative reputation, apart from several players from 'this guild', a few from 'that guild' and definatly quite a lot from 'the other guild'.

    But I still remain a mystery because apparently, people still do not know what a chrucher is, nor do they know why it needs 2 hands. As long as that remains like this, the mysterious bardcher who vanished will remain one of ghallanda's biggest mysteries. Who knows, he'll just might be a new raid boss!

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    Ainevek: 9/6/2 FvS/ranger/paladin (life 2/?) Shinweng: 8/5/2 monk/wizard/paladin (life 4/3?Abaranda: 18/2 FvS/monk (life 7/?) Kevenia: 6 sorcerer (life 2/?)
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