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    Default 12wiz/6rgr/2mnk is this build playable?

    hello,
    i am going to do my 2nd reincarnation and i am wondering about multiclassing dark monk for dexterity modifier to attack, ranger for two weapon feats and dex modifier to dmg and wizard wraith. I will be fighting with shortswords. Do you think i will be able to play with this build solo?

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    Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Male
    (2 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 12 Wizard) 
    Hit Points: 284
    Spell Points: 798 
    BAB: 13\13\18\23
    Fortitude: 21
    Reflex: 25
    Will: 18
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             13                    15
    Dexterity            18                    29
    Constitution         16                    20
    Intelligence         14                    16
    Wisdom               10                    12
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
    
    Level 1 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
    
    
    Level 9 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 10 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Eschew Materials
    
    
    Level 14 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
    
    
    Level 16 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 19 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Wizard)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Wraith (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Cloak of Night (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Cloak of Night (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy IV (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Improved Shrouding (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Eldritch Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)
    Last edited by Vilgeforts; 01-18-2014 at 11:52 AM.

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    without checking out the build itself much (though i saw eschew materials there, you really dont need that), i can tell you that this is very well viable and cabable of soloing cause its damn tanky...had a similar build as my first life just human instead of halfling
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    i took eschew because i don t want to buy components for tenser's tranformation. What would you use?

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    Components are extremely cheap, but you should be worrying about your SP usage. 3 short term buffs every few minutes plus the costs of EK abilities will add up much quicker than you think.

    Going dex based is a bad idea IMO, because you're losing a lot of damage with bow strength. I would also suggest bladeforged for superior healing and damage, if you have it.

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    I have recently played a Shadar-Kai 12wizard/6ranger/2rogue build. I did it for the past lives and would have chosen monk instead of rogue as well, if I was doing it with a standard race.

    The pale master tree was very helpful in heroic levels, but I ended up dropping it in epics, because the aura wasn't lasting too much and the heal from it wasn't enough either.

    Instead I kept all the goodies from EK, including the Tenser's toggle, and focused more on Tempest tree. I used Primal Avatar destiny mainly. The tree form is amazingly easy to use, the dps is decent and healing with cocoon was much easier. Of course not being undead means others can also heal you easier, but you may need some time to get used to not having all the undead immunities

    Most useful skill in this build, either you keep pale master tree or not, is Heal. Use the ranger levels to max it, it will help you both in undead form or not.

    Definitely a viable build and a fun one as well.
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    i am not going to use bow, i will fight with shortswords and i won t be doing epic destinies just another reincarnation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilgeforts View Post
    hello,
    i am going to do my 2nd reincarnation and i am wondering about multiclassing dark monk for dexterity modifier to attack, ranger for two weapon feats and dex modifier to dmg and wizard wraith. I will be fighting with shortswords. Do you think i will be able to play with this build solo?

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.01
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    Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Male
    (2 Monk \ 6 Ranger \ 12 Wizard) 
    Hit Points: 284
    Spell Points: 798 
    BAB: 13\13\18\23
    Fortitude: 21
    Reflex: 25
    Will: 18
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             13                    15
    Dexterity            18                    29
    Constitution         16                    20
    Intelligence         14                    16
    Wisdom               10                    12
    Charisma              8                     8
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 20
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
    
    Level 1 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 8 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
    
    
    Level 9 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 10 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Eschew Materials
    
    
    Level 14 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
    
    
    Level 16 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 19 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Wizard)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Halfling - Halfling Luck (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Critical Damage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Wraith (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Cloak of Night (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Cloak of Night (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy III (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy IV (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Constitution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Improved Shrouding (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Eldritch Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Eldritch Knight (Wiz) - Improved Mage Armor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Ninja Spy (Mnk) - Ninja Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Fists of Iron (Rank 1)
    I have a similar character (also 12wiz/6rng/2mnk, TWF with shortswords, wraithform) and it works very very well. In heroics it's very easy to solo things, in epics it gets harder because the mobs simply start hitting a lot harder and your aura's don't always keep up. But with plenty of PRR, high dodge/incorp/conceal and high saves this can be helped some. I'm using dual Celestias atm and having a blast.
    Last edited by Rhaphael; 01-20-2014 at 02:57 AM.

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