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    are almost perfect. I've etr'd twice now w/in the month, first from the free one, second from my collecting them from lvl 20-28. It worked out to be just enough.

    So please keep the CoV rewards doubled.

    That effectively makes the cost of hearts, in the month of Dec., 2100. If you aren't going to keep the CoV rewards doubled, please consider changing the cost of the ETR hearts. 4200 is clearly too high - if you feel 2100 is too low, perhaps think about 2500. That would be just about right if you want people to stay at cap for a bit of time. You are welcome to raise it to 3000 when you raise the level cap to 30, if you feel you need to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singular View Post
    are almost perfect. I've etr'd twice now w/in the month, first from the free one, second from my collecting them from lvl 20-28. It worked out to be just enough.

    So please keep the CoV rewards doubled.

    That effectively makes the cost of hearts, in the month of Dec., 2100. If you aren't going to keep the CoV rewards doubled, please consider changing the cost of the ETR hearts. 4200 is clearly too high - if you feel 2100 is too low, perhaps think about 2500. That would be just about right if you want people to stay at cap for a bit of time. You are welcome to raise it to 3000 when you raise the level cap to 30, if you feel you need to.

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    agreed. the current comm drop rates feel almost fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singular View Post
    are almost perfect. I've etr'd twice now w/in the month, first from the free one, second from my collecting them from lvl 20-28. It worked out to be just enough.

    So please keep the CoV rewards doubled.

    That effectively makes the cost of hearts, in the month of Dec., 2100. If you aren't going to keep the CoV rewards doubled, please consider changing the cost of the ETR hearts. 4200 is clearly too high - if you feel 2100 is too low, perhaps think about 2500. That would be just about right if you want people to stay at cap for a bit of time. You are welcome to raise it to 3000 when you raise the level cap to 30, if you feel you need to.

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    How do you play? Did you run every quest on hard or every quest on elite? Or did you farm VON 3 and Wiz King every day for half your exp? Or did you do mostly the top-end stuff every day for max comms/min? Did you use exp pots?

    That's important info for the devs.

    "It worked out to be just enough" is not what the devs are looking for... They want SOME incentive for people to buy... A perfect system would get most people to 28 with 25%-30% more comms to get... thereby giving the impatient among us a reason to buy a heart every 3rd or 4th TR.

    Or they could make xp pots also boost comm drops, and get their money that way (actually probably have to sell NEW comm pots, because of the all duplicated xp pots out there).
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    Running all content now on EH will earn you enough comms to ETR by the time you are 28. I've ETR'd twice (first with the free heart), and closing in on a 3rd (2.4m XP to go), with 5600 comms at the moment. I'd say EH is even the better option for most now while the drop rate is 200% (why waste time in EE for 160%).

    I've run multiple chains of VoN1-4/Red Fens/Estar 1, 2, 3/Druids Deep/Wheloon/High Road/Gianthold/etc and some Snitch (random other quests here and there), but I've avoided anything in Sands. Zero reason to run EE until I hit 26/27, the comm rates are just too nice on EH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singular View Post
    perhaps think about 2500.
    I've long agreed that 2500 is the proper number.

    You are welcome to raise it to 3000 when you raise the level cap to 30, if you feel you need to.
    Good call. Agreed on this as well.

    Also, please lower the karma requirement from 6 million to 2 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Or they could make xp pots also boost comm drops, and get their money that way (actually probably have to sell NEW comm pots, because of the all duplicated xp pots out there).


    That's a great idea actually, that way your Pay2win (lite, XP pots are the Diet Coke of Pay2Win . . .) doesn't work against you.

    With that said . . . I feel the current drop rates feel about right and should be permanent.

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    agreed. either keep the comm rate doubled as it is now, or half the requirement...

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    I guess I am the only one who thinks that being able to earn a heart in two weeks is too fast? I mean, I thought a month of earning the heart was a good average time, where the truly dedicated would get it in around 1-2 weeks, and the average person a month, while the truly casual players could take two months or so to get one.

    That being said, I'm all for xp potions upping the amount of comms dropped as well.
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    I have 8k comms of valor currently. If they keep the system the same they need to give me better things to use the comms on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    I guess I am the only one who thinks that being able to earn a heart in two weeks is too fast? I mean, I thought a month of earning the heart was a good average time.
    a month is about what a life takes, assuming you're not a hard core players using stones. spending an equal amount of time grinding a small number of quests just so you can start playing the game again is too much, for the simple reason that half your playtime shouldn't be work.

    to answer the argument of "just pay and avoid it", if you build a wall that's too high to climb (i.e. make the heart too grindy to get) then few would waste time grinding it. some would pay, some would leave. reducing the number of players isn't a smart move, no matter how you want to cut it.
    yes, even if they aren't paying, it's not a smart move.

    I believe you will likely find you are in the minority when advocating that obtaining the hearts should be a month's worth of grind.

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    i have 1607 COV and been Running a lot of dungeons EH !

    The problem is not the time it takes
    To get to 4200 which is way too much but when will they start thinking about what is fair for players..
    Everybody is talking about 2200-2500 COV being reasonnable but what do they care !
    We will always have people playing 25 hours a day to reach their goal but i am not among them sorry to have wife / child and another life
    Like many others i am about to take a long break
    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    I guess I am the only one who thinks that being able to earn a heart in two weeks is too fast? I mean, I thought a month of earning the heart was a good average time, where the truly dedicated would get it in around 1-2 weeks, and the average person a month, while the truly casual players could take two months or so to get one.

    That being said, I'm all for xp potions upping the amount of comms dropped as well.
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    I am against XP pots upping the CoV drop rate as a fix

    just up the CoV rate or lower the CoV requirement for a Heart

    no reason to tie the CoV rates to store purchases

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    The valcom droprate seems fair like it is right now, I hope this "test" will become permanent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I have 8k comms of valor currently. If they keep the system the same they need to give me better things to use the comms on.
    that's a common problem for people playing almost exclusively epics or at cap, for obvious reasons.
    if you're not TRing as soon as possible, than your coms would accumulate, and with higher level quests giving more coms, staying at cap means a windfall of coms.

    that is not to say the amounts at the moment are inappropriate; for those trying to TR they seem to be about right.
    for those at cap though more uses for those coms seem a must.

    I would also go as far as to suggest that the drop rates be changed so that lower level quests would drop a higher amount than currently are, and higher ones drop less. that way inflation for endgamers can be somewhat reduced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    I guess I am the only one who thinks that being able to earn a heart in two weeks is too fast?
    considering it's possible to earn a heroic heart in under an hour, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    "It worked out to be just enough" is not what the devs are looking for... They want SOME incentive for people to buy... A perfect system would get most people to 28 with 25%-30% more comms to get... thereby giving the impatient among us a reason to buy a heart every 3rd or 4th TR.
    Agreed. Everyone keeps asking for lower numbers as if Turbine should 1) cater to a small group of extra super duper hard core gamers who want ez button eTRs and 2) cut out a revenue stream therby neglecting Turbine of cash and incentive to invest in DDO development. 4100 may be punative and too high but I'm willing to bet 2100 is too low.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Or they could make xp pots also boost comm drops, and get their money that way (actually probably have to sell NEW comm pots, because of the all duplicated xp pots out there).
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I have 8k comms of valor currently. If they keep the system the same they need to give me better things to use the comms on.
    sitting at 28 and farming may have that result but, then your not gaining any EPL or IPL sitting there

    we are talking about gaining CoV leveling from 20-28

    and remember you've been gaining double or at least bonus CoV since the 20th


    you don't want to spend your CoV on ETR/ITR you want to sit at cap and farm them does not reflect on gaining CoV while leveling its a different animal altogether.

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