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    Default TR Paladin to TWF Paladin

    Im planning to TR my Human 15 Pal / 3 Rog / 2 Fighter into a Human 12 Pal / 6 Rng / 2 Rog TWF Paladin. What would be a good place to take the classes? Thats my major problem with thinking of my own builds. Planning to focus on Longswords for Oathblade or Tinah. Not gonna bother with trapping cause i dont think it will be possible anyway. Ive got 34 Points to build with since its TR and a +2 Str/Dex tome applied already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sipherwoods View Post
    Im planning to TR my Human 15 Pal / 3 Rog / 2 Fighter into a Human 12 Pal / 6 Rng / 2 Rog TWF Paladin. What would be a good place to take the classes? Thats my major problem with thinking of my own builds. Planning to focus on Longswords for Oathblade or Tinah. Not gonna bother with trapping cause i dont think it will be possible anyway. Ive got 34 Points to build with since its TR and a +2 Str/Dex tome applied already.
    It seems a shame that once you have 12 levels of Paladin, that you don't take 2 more to pick up zeal for 10% doublestrike. One more level after that gets you cure serious wounds or deathward. I think that's why it's tricky to make a Paladin / Ranger TWF combo. Ideally a Paladin will have at least 15 Paladin levels.
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    Traps are absolutely doable. Human Rangers get six skill points per level. Search (1 pt), Concentration (1 pt), Disable (2 pts). The two left over can be put into Spot if you don't know trap locations, or UMD for buffs/Heal scrolls. Most locks in heroic can be opened with four base skill points and level-appropriate gear. Search/Disable don't have to be always maxed; there will be some leeway if you gear/buff properly.

    However, I would advise getting a +2 INT tome to shore up the skill points on your Paladin levels, or putting build points into INT. If you start with STR 16, DEX 15 (to qualify for GTWF with +2 tome), CON 14/16, you will have 8/6 build points left over for CHA/INT. WIS is a dump stat for Ranger/Paladin: use an item or Owl's Wisdom pot to enable casting.

    As for levelling order, Rogue first to maximise skill points. You probably want to have 6 Ranger at about level 12 so you can grab GTWF and go TWF full-time (prior to that, THF cleaving is better). Your second Rogue level should be taken some time after the +2 INT tome kicks in at level 7, to shore up skill points from your Paladin levels. Paladin levels should be taken earlyish as their KotC/smite damage bonuses versus evil/undead are helpful in the lower levels.
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    So something like this? Ill grab a +2 Int tome from Favor on this life also. Or pray i find a +2 upgrade, since ive got a +1 laying around somewhere i think.



    Code:
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    Level 28 Lawful Good Human Female
    (12 Paladin \ 2 Rogue \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 384
    Spell Points: 310 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 19
    Reflex: 18
    Will: 8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             16                    26
    Dexterity            15                    17
    Constitution         14                    17
    Intelligence         12                    12
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             14                    14
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
    
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 11 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 12 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 14 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 16 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 17 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 18 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Mobility
    
    
    Level 19 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 20 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Greater Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Graceful Death (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 3)

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    Default paladin

    Why not go two Monk instead of Two rogue if you are not going to be a trapper. You can still run in light armor and get evasion while also gaining Two Feats?

    You should focus on 15 Paladin/3 Ranger/2 Monk. You would have enough Feats to get TWF X3, PA, Cleave, Great Cleave, Overwhelming Critical, Improved Critical Ranged, Improved Critical Slashing and if Human you could throw in Toughness or Empower Healing. You must be careful of WHEN you select your Feats. It's a very enjoyable Class mix, with tremendous Burst DPS, Burst Ranged w/ Fury Shot, unbelievable saves with Evasion (all in mid 60's), Huge Dodge, Low AC, and decent PRR. I truly enjoy mine. With Cacoon you are almost Unkillable.

    Make something similar with a Blade forged and it really gets nasty.....
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    Hm if i did go 2 Monk, what feats would i take when? and also, what would be some good robes to look for? Im mainly using Whisperchain atm since i cant ever get the Dusk/Blur ring from PoP. Ah, i wouldnt be centered anyway though. Hmm. Something like this maybe?


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    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.03
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    Level 28 Lawful Good Human Female
    (15 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 3 Ranger \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 394
    Spell Points: 260 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 21
    Reflex: 18
    Will: 11
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             16                    25
    Dexterity            15                    18
    Constitution         14                    17
    Intelligence         12                    12
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             14                    14
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
    
    Level 1 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Deity) Follower of the Sovereign Host
    
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    
    
    Level 4 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 6 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Mobility
    
    
    Level 7 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
    
    
    Level 8 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 9 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 11 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 12 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 14 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 16 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 17 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 18 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 19 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 20 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Positive
    Enhancement: Human - Human Versatility: Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Human Adaptability: Dexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Human - Ambidexterity (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Human - Greater Heroism (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Turning (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Parry (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Item Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
    Last edited by Sipherwoods; 12-20-2013 at 12:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralmeth View Post
    It seems a shame that once you have 12 levels of Paladin, that you don't take 2 more to pick up zeal for 10% doublestrike. One more level after that gets you cure serious wounds or deathward. I think that's why it's tricky to make a Paladin / Ranger TWF combo. Ideally a Paladin will have at least 15 Paladin levels.
    Yeah, paladins don't get much between lvls 6 and 14, unfortunately; most of the lvl 2 & 3 spells stink and the core enhs are weak. If you're not going for at least pal 14, I would stop at 6 and many will tell you to stop at 4.

    OP: here's a build I'm considering LR+20ing one of my drow pallies into, now that pure pallies are so weak. It's basically a TWF variant on Pyrene. Perhaps it will give you some ideas.
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    Level 28 Lawful Good Drow Female
    (14 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 4 Ranger \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 359
    Spell Points: 280 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 23
    Reflex: 20
    Will: 12
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             16                    27
    Dexterity            16                    19
    Constitution         12                    14
    Intelligence         10                    12
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             16                    18
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 28)
    Balance               3                    20
    Bluff                 3                    12
    Concentration         5                    33
    Diplomacy             3                    15
    Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                3                    12
    Heal                  3                    30
    Hide                  3                    12
    Intimidate            3                    12
    Jump                  7                    20
    Listen               -1                     9
    Move Silently         7                    16
    Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
    Perform               n/a                  n/a
    Repair                0                     9
    Search                0                    11
    Spellcraft            0                     9
    Spot                  3                    15
    Swim                  3                    16
    Tumble                n/a                  13
    Use Magic Device      5                    23
    
    Level 1 (Ranger)
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Heal (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Move Silently (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Skill: Concentration (+1)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Feat: (Deity) Favored by Vulkoor
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Skill: Balance (+3)
    Skill: Tumble (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 4 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 5 (Paladin)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    
    
    Level 6 (Paladin)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 7 (Paladin)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+4)
    Skill: Heal (+3)
    
    
    Level 9 (Monk)
    Skill: Balance (+5)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision
    
    
    Level 10 (Paladin)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Paladin)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+5)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Paladin)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Paladin)
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 16 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Paladin)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 18 (Ranger)
    Skill: Concentration (+3)
    Skill: Heal (+2)
    Skill: Spot (+2)
    Feat: (Selected) Manyshot
    
    
    Level 19 (Paladin)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Paladin)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Concentration (+2)
    Skill: Heal (+1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Fiendslayer II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Remove Disease (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Outsiders (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Vigor of Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Sealed Life (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Shield of Whirling Steel (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Tempest (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Improved Reaction (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Whirling Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Tempest (Rgr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Far Shot (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Sneak Attack (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Increased Empathy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Versatile Empathy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Deepwood Stalker (Rgr) - Versatile Empathy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Rgr) - Force Arrows (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target
    For healing I'll be relying on (Endless) LoHs and Rejuv Cocoon + Emp Heal; EotW / Echoes of Power from AA means I'll have enough SPs for Cocoon (or CMW while it's on cooldown). Here's hoping I don't regret that!

    BTW, robes are only necessary on a monk splash if you plan to be centered or want the WIS bonus to AC; otherwise, Evasion works just fine in light armor.

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    Ultimately you want the 2 levels of Monk for the evasion and two free feats. You will not run in stance and should look for the best light Armor that allows a good PRR and Dodge. Your saves with Evasion will make your build incredibly survivable. DPS in groups should be in Fury for some limited CC and Furyshot. Solo in LD for some real fun. Get Cacoon as fast as you can and you'll really be loving the build. Build your enhancements for DPS and survivability. Your HP will be around 750 at Lvl 28 which isn't bad with the endless healing that you have. Your AC will never be great and your DPS will never be the best but it will be pretty great for a Paladin.


    1. M: Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Power Attack
    2. M: Toughness (Evasion)
    3. R: Cleave, FE: Giants (Bow Strength)
    4. R: (Rapid Shot)
    5. P
    6. P: Great Cleave, (Divine Grace)
    7-8. P
    9. P: Improved TWF
    10-11. P
    12. P: Manyshot
    13-14. P
    15. P: Improved Critical: Slashing
    16-17. P
    18. P: Improved Critical: Ranged
    19. P
    20. M: Light Path
    21. Greater TWF
    24. Overwhelming Critical
    26. Perfect TWF
    27. Empower Healing
    28. Elusive Target
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    Yeah, Paladin is a class that you should only invest 2-3 levels as a splash or go to at least 15 you do not gain much benefit otherwise. 2 levels of either rogue or monk is strongly recommended for the evasion feat, and probably 1-2 levels of fighter for free tower shield and 1-2 additional feats. The only bad thing is you will only get 2 spell slots at level four spells, and that's where Paladins have some of their best spells, but the tradeoff is worth it.

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