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    Default Really Devs , Are you still sure ????

    10k /monkcher builds -------------- Pure ranger


    Manyshot ----------------------- manyshot
    Doubleshot ---------------------doubleshot
    10k-------------------------------
    ips ------------------------------ ips
    Af--------------------------------- Af
    precission ---------------------- precission
    Heal amp ---------------------- cure serious
    Better saves -------------------
    enhancements ---------------- enhancements
    improved evasion ------------ regular evasion
    Better at melee--------------
    Higher crits !!!! -------------
    faster run speed---------------- Some buffs / that most can be found elsewhere .
    More dodge -------------------
    Better Ac ----------------------



    Idk , 90% of the forums would of did this better then me , Hopefully someone will !!!
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    I know what point you're trying to get across, but you've done an awful job of it.

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    Try sober posting its much better for the rest of us.
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    Not good with this stuff as you can see lol

    idgaf though as long as we know what it meant !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fTdOmen View Post
    I know what point you're trying to get across, but you've done an awful job of it.
    Yea.

    Don't think the DEVs need to be ask if they are sure, think the OP needs to be asked if he is sure he wants to post a bunch of words mashed together that make no sense at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    monkcher pure ranger
    manyshot manyshot
    doubleshot doubleshot
    10k stars nada
    ips ips
    af(archer's focus?) af
    heal amp cure serious wounds
    moar saves lame saves
    enhancements (wat?) enhancements
    improved evasion standard evasion
    better at melee (allegedly) worse at melee (allegedly)
    higher crits! weaksauce crits
    faster run speed some (unidentified) buffs really i have no idea
    moar dodge less dodge
    better ac lol ac


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    Quote Originally Posted by rest View Post
    monkcher pure ranger
    manyshot manyshot
    doubleshot doubleshot
    10k stars nada
    ips ips
    af(archer's focus?) af
    heal amp cure serious wounds
    moar saves lame saves
    enhancements (wat?) enhancements
    improved evasion standard evasion
    better at melee (allegedly) worse at melee (allegedly)
    higher crits! weaksauce crits
    faster run speed some (unidentified) buffs really i have no idea
    moar dodge less dodge
    better ac lol ac


    Tables are awesome.
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    i think he is getting at monks > rangers? i havent gotten into my monk lives yet (hate going good or lowfull what even it is) but rangers have gotten abit of a bumb from the pass, i hate saying that but its true.

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    monk ................... ranger

    ~1000 TP ............... 0 TP


    Yes, the devs are still sure.
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    People are absolutely working on it at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bimbelbo View Post
    monk ................... ranger

    ~1000 TP ............... 0 TP


    Yes, the devs are still sure.
    I suspect that about sums it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vint View Post
    You insult people all the time here. I will not respond again as I know that I am not as protected on these forums as some others other.
    Quote Originally Posted by Braegan View Post
    Agree with Vint.
    Your tinfoil is on to tight.


    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Your tinfoil is on to tight.

    Hmmm...whose posts are gone? Not yours O.o Wow, I think I've discovered the secret!

    As for the OP, Bimbelbo is right - Monk costs TP so it definitely should be better than a class that does not cost TP. The fact that almost every build benefits from some Monk levels means that they sell more Monk class = Turbine win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    Hmmm...whose posts are gone? Not yours O.o Wow, I think I've discovered the secret!

    As for the OP, Bimbelbo is right - Monk costs TP so it definitely should be better than a class that does not cost TP. The fact that almost every build benefits from some Monk levels means that they sell more Monk class = Turbine win.
    If that is the truth (little doubt with me) please make the Bards a payable class immediaely! Perhaps now they get the missing love they so long deserve.

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    I am a vip. monk and ranger cost the same for me. it doesn't matter if monk is a TP class and ranger is a free class. I am paying for both so I want my ranger to be OP like monks. I like the tin foil hat theory that monks are better and should be better than rangers just because they are a paid for class. I wonder what that makes favored soul, artificer and druid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qhualor View Post
    I wonder what that makes favored soul, artificer and druid?
    Generally better than their f2p counterparts.
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    Pure rangers were never kings of archery.
    They were even behind elven fighters.

    Now they're actually quite decent.

    Monks splashes were always better with bows.

    Its nothing new.
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    Give rangers some more Double-shot near the top of Deepwood--level 18 I think, so AA rangers can get it, as it's hard to compete with Slayer Arrows (shouldn't be in AA, because then elves can just pick it up anyway), and an ability that removes the long penalty to doubleshot after Manyshot expires. Basically, give high level Rangers their doubleshot for 1:40 out of every 2 minutes, rather than about 1 min out of every 2. That would be a start. They're already getting more doubleshot thank Monkchers are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murf201 View Post
    Better at melee
    Lolwut?

    Unless you build for melee, a monkcher 99% of the time will have much worse melee than any Ranger build.
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    I don't get the strongly worded criticisms against the OP. I thought the direct and implied message was very clear. One of the more efficient posts I've seen, actually. Whether folks agree with all of the content is up for the discussion (i.e. the point). The OP did not do an awful job but its awful etiquette to shut down a thread with the first reply in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    Hmmm...whose posts are gone? Not yours O.o Wow, I think I've discovered the secret!

    As for the OP, Bimbelbo is right - Monk costs TP so it definitely should be better than a class that does not cost TP. The fact that almost every build benefits from some Monk levels means that they sell more Monk class = Turbine win.
    I'll let you in on the secret, but it won't fit into your tinfoil hat conspiracy theory....


    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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