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    Why Did You Do This!

    The secret door/true seeing makes no sense. Why is this the norm now?

    Why do we need a rogue or whatever to find it now?

    Even though we have the ability to find it? Why are you doing this?!

    What is the importance of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zDragonz View Post
    The secret door/true seeing makes no sense. Why is this the norm now?

    Why do we need a rogue or whatever to find it now?

    Even though we have the ability to find it? Why are you doing this?!

    What is the importance of it?

    Ummm....uh...errr...


    ...ahhh....I'm gonna say to make Artificers and Rogues more beneficial for detecting secret doors now?


    Did I get that one right?

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    no I want to solo.

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    don't need you, but apparently the game seems to think I do, by making this so.

    This is not fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zDragonz View Post
    Why Did You Do This!

    The secret door/true seeing makes no sense. Why is this the norm now?

    Why do we need a rogue or whatever to find it now?

    Even though we have the ability to find it? Why are you doing this?!

    What is the importance of it?
    not really sure what your getting at. for heroics grab a Trueseeing item, and it should work. atleast in quests that arent bugged. as for epics. TS does find some of the stuff, but for alot of the doors you'll need a spotter. I doubt anything is unable to be completed without having one, but for the full experience, they wanted to make the groups more diverse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsquishwizzy View Post
    Ummm....uh...errr...


    ...ahhh....I'm gonna say to make Artificers and Rogues more beneficial for detecting secret doors now?


    Did I get that one right?
    We do not need you. But the game got dumbed down and I guess we do, but you are not needed. True seeing is True seeing. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zDragonz View Post
    Why Did You Do This!

    The secret door/true seeing makes no sense. Why is this the norm now?

    Why do we need a rogue or whatever to find it now?

    Even though we have the ability to find it? Why are you doing this?!

    What is the importance of it?
    Thread title is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violith View Post
    not really sure what your getting at. for heroics grab a Trueseeing item, and it should work. atleast in quests that arent bugged. as for epics. TS does find some of the stuff, but for alot of the doors you'll need a spotter. I doubt anything is unable to be completed without having one, but for the full experience, they wanted to make the groups more diverse.
    remove this post please. rolls eyes!

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    I'm on a wizard/monk/paladin life right now and I can search out any doors I want to. You don't need to be a rogue or artificer to find doors. You don't even need it as a class skill. Get the best item you can find. Craft up an int skills item if you need it. Good luck, GH and whatever other bonuses you can get. It's doable if you put the effort into it.
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    True seeing tells us there is a draft and we have found a secret door, yet we are unable do to the game mechanic that says a rogue is needed.


    I say this is bs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zDragonz View Post
    True seeing tells us there is a draft and we have found a secret door, yet we are unable do to the game mechanic that says a rogue is needed.


    I say this is bs!
    A rogue is not needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redspecter23 View Post
    I'm on a wizard/monk/paladin life right now and I can search out any doors I want to. You don't need to be a rogue or artificer to find doors. You don't even need it as a class skill. Get the best item you can find. Craft up an int skills item if you need it. Good luck, GH and whatever other bonuses you can get. It's doable if you put the effort into it.
    The game states only rogue or artificers are allowed to find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redspecter23 View Post
    A rogue is not needed.
    then what is true seeing for?

    What am I missing? I found it now what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zDragonz View Post
    The game states only rogue or artificers are allowed to find it.
    Secret doors should be able to be found by any class with a high enough search skill. Traps are a rogue/artificer thing after a certain DC, I think 20. If there is a door you can't find with a search skill and it's actually telling you that you need a rogue or an artificer, that would be a bugged secret door. Which door has this issue specifically?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zDragonz View Post
    then what is true seeing for?

    What am I missing? I found it now what?
    I use true seeing to cancel out blur and displacement and as a nice easy way to find secret doors easily if I'm running epic normal content.
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    I don't invest in search, my true seeing tells me that there is a secret door, now I need search to find what I already know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zDragonz View Post
    I don't invest in search, my true seeing tells me that there is a secret door, now I need search to find what I already know?
    Are you sure your true seeing is telling you there's a door? Or is it your spot skill? Your spot skill, if high enough will tell you there is a door there, but you need to search to find it.
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    closed. done debating. It is a stupid bug and we know it. Please stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zDragonz View Post
    closed. done debating. It is a stupid bug and we know it. Please stop.
    Trying to apply logic to an illogical rage post does seem to make people that have little knowledge of the rules quite confused. I apologize and will allow you to get back to your rant now.
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    Do you get absolutely hammered before you come to the forums and post?

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