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    Default Best ways to get 100 commendations of valor

    Hopefully we can hammer out some good daily circuits to run on multiple characters.

    With heart seeds coming, I'm thinking the best way to farm epic/iconic hearts will be with a stable of epic characters. I could envision having 6 epic characters doing a "100 valor dash" each day to get the full 42 heart seeds in a week. For the more hardcore, have 7 characters race to 300 valor each day to get your epic heart in 2 days. *swoon*

    If you're doing the same circuit on multiple alts, running time will have to be factored in. Impossible Demands is not a 30-45 second completion; from the time you use the Key to the City to the time you actually collect the comms is likely going to be at least 5 minutes. That just means that quests right next to each other get a bit of a boost in attractiveness.

    Here are the design goals I'm curious about:

    - One circuit should be no more than one set of ship buffs, so one hour tops start to finish
    - What's the fastest way to get 100 comms for top end players?
    - What's the fastest way to get 200 comms for top end players?
    - What's the fastest/easiest way to get 100 comms for mediocre players? Mostly EH with easy EEs included.
    - What's the fastest/easiest way to get 100 comms for weak players? EH only.
    - Mention if group vs solo matters

    What can we come up with?

    EDIT: Note that you wouldn't normally need the full 42 seeds. Just getting to level 28 will net you around 1500-2000 valor just running normally, so around a third of the way there to start with. However, if you had a 28 at cap when U20 went live, or maybe used an Otto's Box and xp pots, you may be under 1000 comms when you hit cap so a bunch of seed runs would be the way to go.

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    I would say for a group your best bet is to run Sschindrylyn chain elite. Three "House" quests will get you 105 CoV's. I doubt you can squeeze Portal Opens into hour, but if you can -- or are not hung up on finishing within an hour, -- that's 140 CoV's.

    If you solo AND can handle elite King's Forest quests alone (it's harder than it sounds, at least on a melee), then I would do Impossible Demands elite/hard/normal, then Unquiet Graves and Lost Thread elite. 113 CoV's under an hour.
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    That's a good start, though broken chains is pretty long, isn't it? Both rusted blades and death undone are super short, especially since you can just buy a rogue hire to open the shortcut locked door.


    For a pure EH solo run suitable for any soloable character my first thought is:
    18 Rusted Blades (level 9 fighter hire with ddoor)
    18 Death Undone (level 24 rogue hire to open the locked door)
    21 Druid's Deep 1
    21 Druid's Deep 2
    21 Druid's Deep 3
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    99...doh!

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    Here's what I would do.

    Get your ship buffs, key to estar, and reset all 3 MOTU quest chains and Overgrowth - say 5m
    Run ID EE - 5m (including run to quest) = 30 comms
    Run to UG - <3m
    Run EH UG - <3m = 15 comms
    Run EH Overgrowth - <3m = 21 comms

    19m = 66 comms

    Here's where it gets interesting. If you're a UMD capable, you can immediately scroll teleport to House P

    Run EE Snitch - <10m = 25 comms

    29m = 91 comms

    30 minutes left, only 9 comms short, so do whatever you want. If you have a party, I'd say scroll to House K and do

    Run EE Prisoner - <9m = 30 comms

    Return to ship, logout (because Prisoner is conveniently near portal).

    Whole circuit should net you more than 100 comms and you even have time to rebuff on the ship before logging out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Hopefully we can hammer out some good daily circuits to run on multiple characters.

    With heart seeds coming, I'm thinking the best way to farm epic/iconic hearts will be with a stable of epic characters. I could envision having 6 epic characters doing a "100 valor dash" each day to get the full 42 heart seeds in a week.
    6 hours a day, 7 days a week, repeating the same 4-5 quests over and over and over.

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    For 100, run 2 EE High Road.

    For 200, run 4 EE High Road.

    Will take you about 2hrs to get 200.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    For 100, run 2 EE High Road.

    For 200, run 4 EE High Road.

    Will take you about 2hrs to get 200.
    Pretty much. Best bet is just to run the high-level EE. Issue with that is off-destiny farming for karma. uggh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    6 hours a day, 7 days a week, repeating the same 4-5 quests over and over and over.

    It's like you guys WANT to hate your life.
    Fanboi it up some more while you're at it. People are responding to the situation Turbine has setup which as it stands will lead to more player frustration than anything else.

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    Last life, when I was trying to do it on my main who is a light monk, heres the loop I used:

    35 CoV 7 minutes EE Rusted Blades (easy if you have ddoor (i use shadowdancer for this) and wings/abundant/cannith propulsion...)
    15 CoV 4 Minutes EH Impossible Demands (30 COVs if toon can do EE)
    15 CoV 8 Minutes EH Unquiet Graves
    24 CoV 15 Minutes EH A Stay at the Inn
    24 CoV 13 Minutes EH Lost in the Swamp
    24 CoV 13 Minutes EH Rest Stop

    137 CoV 60 Minutes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    People are responding to the situation Turbine has setup which as it stands will lead to more player frustration than anything else.
    What it's leading to is players like EllisDee rolling up their sleeves and figuring out how to work around the system - in a few months or less Epic Heart farming will be approaching the triviality that True Heart farming has become over time and the latest rage storm will have dissipated - and if Turbine makes any downward adjustment then so much the faster. Good grief man, people are already showing they can level from 20 to 28 with only ~65 quest runs averaging 100k per run. High achieving players will figure out the CoV puzzle soon enough and the rest will follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hit_fido View Post
    Good grief man, people are already showing they can level from 20 to 28 with only ~65 quest runs averaging 100k per run.
    I don't believe you. Link please or you're talking out your arse.

    And if you're talking about running EE/EH VON3 once a day for 65 days . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    Fanboi it up some more while you're at it. People are responding to the situation Turbine has setup which as it stands will lead to more player frustration than anything else.
    Where in my post am I defending Turbine? I agree that karma and covs both need to be lowered.

    My point is maybe instead of responding to Turbine's changes by GRINDING until one's eyes bleed, one relax a bit, and maybe Epic TR a little slower.

    Or if you're so OCD that you have to have Epic Completionist by April, maybe one's time would be better spent getting a part-time job where you work ONE hour a week to pay for a heart, instead of grinding out 42 hours a week running the same 5 quests 42 times each.
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    EE then EH Through a Darkly Mirror. Zerg invis and complete both in 20 mins. That's like 80 ish comms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myliftkk_v2 View Post
    Here's what I would do.

    Get your ship buffs, key to estar, and reset all 3 MOTU quest chains and Overgrowth - say 5m
    Run ID EE - 5m (including run to quest) = 30 comms
    Run to UG - <3m
    Run EH UG - <3m = 15 comms
    Run EH Overgrowth - <3m = 21 comms

    19m = 66 comms

    Here's where it gets interesting. If you're a UMD capable, you can immediately scroll teleport to House P

    Run EE Snitch - <10m = 25 comms
    Umm... I only ran epic Snitch once, on EH. I am quite sure Crateos fight alone took well over 10 minutes. I could do it faster now with Pinion, but still...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    I don't believe you. Link please or you're talking out your arse.

    And if you're talking about running EE/EH VON3 once a day for 65 days . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Dandonk View Post
    I did not "run for xp", I ran motu (except for one quest), von 1-4, druid deep chain, wheloon chain, storm horns chain, wizking, study in sable, and lod chain. I ran a few of those quests twice, but normally just once. That gave me 1500 comms, and got me to 28.

    EDIT: Forgot GH quests and high road quests in the above.
    So that guy ran around 50 different quests, and for me it was reasonable to say approximately 65 runs in all to account for running "a few of those quests twice" - that number wasn't challenged. It makes sense against his CoV total as well. 65 runs for 1500 CoV is about 23 CoV per run... ehard Gianthold should be awarding 24 CoV per run. So yeah, I take what he said at face value - that's 6.6M xp from ~65 runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hit_fido View Post
    So that guy ran around 50 different quests, and for me it was reasonable to say approximately 65 runs in all to account for running "a few of those quests twice" - that number wasn't challenged. It makes sense against his CoV total as well. 65 runs for 1500 CoV is about 23 CoV per run... ehard Gianthold should be awarding 24 CoV per run. So yeah, I take what he said at face value - that's 6.6M xp from ~65 runs.
    So you pulled it completely out your arse, got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Where in my post am I defending Turbine? I agree that karma and covs both need to be lowered.
    So you just hate power-gamers so much that you have to insult them unprovoked for no reason? if you were defending Turbine's stupid design you'd at least have a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh_Troll View Post
    So you pulled it completely out your arse, got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Or if you're so OCD that you have to have Epic Completionist by April, maybe one's time would be better spent getting a part-time job where you work ONE hour a week to pay for a heart, instead of grinding out 42 hours a week running the same 5 quests 42 times each.
    LOL!

    All hearts happen to be on sale this week, and I just bought one epic heart. In next 5-6 months I plan to ER only two characters, one each. The only reason I bought one heart as opposed to two, is that I expect these characters to collect 4200 CoV's on their way to 28 as a matter of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Or if you're so OCD that you have to have Epic Completionist by April, maybe one's time would be better spent getting a part-time job where you work ONE hour a week to pay for a heart, instead of grinding out 42 hours a week running the same 5 quests 42 times each.
    Ok, wherever you stand on the CoV's conversation this is funny. It's really the truth - pay 1495 TP's which, while varying in price and the income of the person in question, would likely be about an hour of work on average, or grind out 42 hours of 5 quests 42 times each. Obviously if you have fun doing those 5 quests 42 times each then this is a no-brainer. If it becomes a job though? Yeah, 1 hour of a job is better than 42 hours of a job for the same outcome.
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