Ran a couple PUGs this life, and maybe I've been off soloing and doing guild-only runs, but has the general etiquette of the game changed? You be the judge:
Scenario 1. Ran an elite PoP PUG, we get in, I'm having a blast killificating stuff with my newly-acquired instadeath spells. They consume SP quite quickly, especially when I'm really the only one killing anything, so we get to the lightning room and I say I will stay out and pull lever then go shrine. The cleric is standing outside with me, looking at me then at the room like an idiot, like he had no idea what he was supposed to do. I watched the group in the room hit a couple buffs, stop moving, wait 15 seconds by watching my buff bar, then hit switch and run up. I think the cleric was trying to move just far enough in that I'd pull the lever thinking he was in, then he could jump out and not have to risk dying. First, is it possible to die in the lightning room? All the air eles do is throw you around, so stand in a corner and you're golden? Apparently it IS possible. Everyone dies in the room, and the cleric had moved too far in and fried himself on the door I think. The following ensues:
PL: "Why would you do that, what are you, 5?"
GM1 (sorc): "Why didn't you ask and make sure we were all ready, you're a ******" (paraphrasing)
Me: "You all buffed, and weren't moving, I assumed you were ready. Not sure how you even die in there"
I go in and clear the room out with no fanfare. They try to get me killed in Lailat room, but because I'm not a complete gimp I manage to kill the room off in short order. I think in order to show me how it's done, this SAME EXACT CONVERSATION ensued at every door from then on out:
GM1 (at lever): "Is everyone ready?"
PL: "I believe so, I think we are ready"
GM1: "Does everyone have buffs?"
PL/others: "Yes, yes I have buffs"
GM1: "OK I'm going to pull lever now, be ready everyone"
ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME?! Pathetic. If you can't do a room in Prison of the Planes, with 3 other people in said room with you, don't blame me. It's not my fault. I can do a room on my own. I could LONG before I got decent gear or completionist. Gimme a break.
Is it now known etiquette to go through 11 levels and ways of asking if everyone is ready before doing anything? How pathetic has PUGging become if that's the case?!
Who was in the right here?
Scenario 2: We are doing an elite Rainbow run, which went really well, get to the end, make short work of the end boss, and people are looting chests. In order to show I am a team player and not a tool, I cast Greater Teleport on the group and zone back to Meridia with everyone. The sorc pipes up and says "thanks to whatever a**hat cast GT, I didn't get end chest"... ***?!
Greater Teleport gives you 58 seconds to click Accept. In that time, you can swap weapons, make sweet love to your partner, check inventory, raid buff, and STILL have 40 seconds to teleport! If it's not what you want you can also click....DECLINE. I respond with something like "It's not my fault you are dumb. I will take your statement as a compliment, thanks!" and drop party. Is it now rude to cast greater Teleport? Because if so I could have saved a ton of plat not buying a stack of said scrolls...
Who was in the right here?
Scenario 3: RWTD elite run, we get in, the group is just not mechanically able to blast through, and I'm not helping a whole lot as I don't have enough death spells to spam them and in wraith mode I'm kind of susceptible (300 damage per hit hurts, no matter WHO you are). I figure I will break streak (893.... sniff) and run it on hard, and everyone is cool with that (we didn't have a healer, and I had no pots, so switching to alive mode was not an option, I would have been a burden on the party). Then people start dropping, leaving me, a ranger (who was awesome) and a bard. I say let's hop in on hard, and he complains that it will break his streak and he needs his streak and why can't we run it on elite? I mention he has no say in the matter as he hasn't contributed anything yet, and he drops group. Here is why this is on here:
a) When he joined, he asked for a share. To a walk-up.
b) When told it was a walk-up, he complained he could not get into the Vale. After some back and forth, he had never been to Gustavine. We spent the latter half of Ritsac guiding him there.
c) Once IN the Vale, he died twice trying to run to Meridia. He then asked for help getting out as he couldnt kill anything.
I sent him a tell informing him "don't worry bud, I'm sure some group will run this and let you pike and contribute nothing and you'll get to cap real soon. Have a nice night!" I'm really kind of sick of the streak BS. If you can't pull your own weight even a LITTLE bit, you don't need to be on a streak. I KNEW RWTD would be tough for me because of my build choices. I refused to use the PM light damage absorbtion enhancement, opting to run on Hard and get it over with instead. I refuse to pike and have others run the quest for me, but it appears to be a common theme: so many people demand an elite streak when they couldn't complete 2 quests in a row on hard no matter which 2 quests they are. They get into a run, and if the rest of the group doesn't do the quest for them or they run into ANY adversity, they leave and find a group willing to let them actipike (actipike means you run along with the group, maybe cast haste or throw the odd heal, but other than that shield block or do nothing) and get all the way to cap and we end up with a further cheapening of the TR process. I'm trying to figure out which one is less detrimental to the game: People who hog out Otto's boxes each life or people who actipike their way through 5 lives then get all whiny when they can't finish a quest and blame Turbine, other players who used to pull them through, lag, or an odd combination.
Who was in the right here?
I'm looking forward to a spirited debate, and am willing to concede if there is a genuine change in etiquette that puts me in the wrong, though I am hard pressed to see that happening. Thanks for reading, have a nice day.