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    Default Turbine, here is 1 idea how to earn money and make players happy at the same time

    Make 20th raids end reward give 500 vcomms, all raids except tempest spine and chrono on heroic.
    This way people will be running all raids, you will be selling a lot more raid timer bypasses and people will be running raids even after they got all the gear from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
    Make 20th raids end reward give 500 vcomms, all raids except tempest spine and chrono on heroic.
    This way people will be running all raids, you will be selling a lot more raid timer bypasses and people will be running raids even after they got all the gear from them.
    Hmm...I can actually /sign for this.
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    500 might be a bit much -though I wouldn't complain :P
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    I'm all for more ways to acquire coms in game, but I think putting even more emphasis on the 20th reward list is a bad thing to do. As it stands right now, I barely care about any given individual completion. It's a race to 20 to see if I finally get the item I'm looking for. The fact that items drop in the raid chest is just a minor afterthought. Too much importance is on that 20th list to get the item I'm looking for. Putting even more importance on that 20th completion makes each individual completion even less special as a result.

    Why not spread it to each 5th completion instead? So instead of 500 every 20th, how about 100 every 5th? It still encourages running raids multiple times, but takes some of the importance away from the 20th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedOrm View Post
    500 might be a bit much
    For 20 completions? That's only 25 per.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post
    For 20 completions? That's only 25 per.

    And, /signed.
    This is actually a great idea.

    Even better for those of us, that are kinda... burned out, cause there is nothing to do for us in end game anymore, as we alrdy have all the items from rais (well, most of em anyway).

    This would also solve the problem with raiding scene.

    I give you my seal of approval!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedOrm View Post
    500 might be a bit much -though I wouldn't complain :P
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    Is it really much?
    500 vcomms for 20 runs, thats month and half if you are not using timers.
    I came up with this idea today when I got my 20th citw end reward and took 14 vcomms(lol, would take guild renown, but it wasnt there and had all weapons I wanted already), citw on thelanis is pretty much dead raid, its like tod, maybe you will see few lfms in a week.
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    /signed, though I like the alternate idea even better

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
    took 14 vcomms(lol, would take guild renown, but it wasnt there and had all weapons I wanted already), citw on thelanis is pretty much dead raid, its like tod, maybe you will see few lfms in a week.
    You don't say?!? CitW's Dead eh? Who would have predicted that...

    Quote Originally Posted by redspecter23 View Post
    I'm all for more ways to acquire coms in game, but I think putting even more emphasis on the 20th reward list is a bad thing to do. As it stands right now, I barely care about any given individual completion. It's a race to 20 to see if I finally get the item I'm looking for. The fact that items drop in the raid chest is just a minor afterthought. Too much importance is on that 20th list to get the item I'm looking for. Putting even more importance on that 20th completion makes each individual completion even less special as a result.

    Why not spread it to each 5th completion instead? So instead of 500 every 20th, how about 100 every 5th? It still encourages running raids multiple times, but takes some of the importance away from the 20th.
    I like this even better every 5 just make the Vcomms show up in the ends list... This gets people interested in raids in a nice way without creeping power or revamping them.
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    good idea /signed
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    to early for pretty much all raids to have 500 Comms as end rewards when all we have to spend them on are EHoW and those new potions. agree or not, it certainly would also defeat what Turbine is trying to do, The ER Hamster Wheel of Fun. in a short time we could have enough Comms to ER. its obvious they don't want us being able to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qhualor View Post
    to early for pretty much all raids to have 500 Comms as end rewards when all we have to spend them on are EHoW and those new potions. agree or not, it certainly would also defeat what Turbine is trying to do, The ER Hamster Wheel of Fun. in a short time we could have enough Comms to ER. its obvious they don't want us being able to do that.
    20 raids is short time for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by redspecter23 View Post
    I'm all for more ways to acquire coms in game, but I think putting even more emphasis on the 20th reward list is a bad thing to do. As it stands right now, I barely care about any given individual completion. It's a race to 20 to see if I finally get the item I'm looking for. The fact that items drop in the raid chest is just a minor afterthought. Too much importance is on that 20th list to get the item I'm looking for. Putting even more importance on that 20th completion makes each individual completion even less special as a result.

    Why not spread it to each 5th completion instead? So instead of 500 every 20th, how about 100 every 5th? It still encourages running raids multiple times, but takes some of the importance away from the 20th.
    Its the same now with epic quests end reward, take the guild renown or take vcomms.
    Just a matter whats more valuable to you, you will be given more options, not less, also if you spread it on every 5th you would still get vcomms on your 20th along with weapons, so you didnt change anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirValentine View Post
    For 20 completions? That's only 25 per.

    And, /signed.
    Yea for some reason I thought it was more than that. After some sleep it sounds much better and I withdraw my comment. Simply: /signed.

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    The way i think about it is that stuff like CoVs or Guild Renown tokens, and whatever else might fit in that same category of stuff that supposedly reflect your heroic/epic deeds, should be in some way automatically granted to you for completing a quest/raid - and be the same amount for everyone in the party (except maybe if someone has died repeatedly, or re-entered the quest, or got in the quest late, etc). Kinda like you get renown from killing mobs. Looting such stuff from chests seems a bit illogical to me.... Having such stuff as guest-rewards is more logical imo than having them in chests, but it doesn't exactly make sense to me if i have to choose between CoVs, tokens, or ... a weapon or an armor - i'd prefer to take some CoVs and/or tokens for granted, and then also be able to select a "material" reward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
    Its the same now with epic quests end reward, take the guild renown or take vcomms.
    Just a matter whats more valuable to you, you will be given more options, not less, also if you spread it on every 5th you would still get vcomms on your 20th along with weapons, so you didnt change anything.
    I guess my problem is that I don't like that it's based on 20 runs. I want each individual raid to have meaning and not just be a counter on my way to my actual reward. I'd sooner see 25 extra coms added to each completion than 500 on the 20th. I don't like that raiding now is just a race to 20, check the list and repeat if necessary. I have no technical problem with adding 500 coms as a 20th list option, it just devalues my 1st through 19th completion even more than it already is.
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    Not signed because that is too many. The potions that are bought with comm's are already OP and to have the ability to get a lot of them quickly is OP. That is what Amrath is for and these potions have killed that pack.

    Make it a lower number and I would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redspecter23 View Post
    I'm all for more ways to acquire coms in game, but I think putting even more emphasis on the 20th reward list is a bad thing to do. As it stands right now, I barely care about any given individual completion. It's a race to 20 to see if I finally get the item I'm looking for. The fact that items drop in the raid chest is just a minor afterthought. Too much importance is on that 20th list to get the item I'm looking for. Putting even more importance on that 20th completion makes each individual completion even less special as a result.

    Why not spread it to each 5th completion instead? So instead of 500 every 20th, how about 100 every 5th? It still encourages running raids multiple times, but takes some of the importance away from the 20th.
    But there are so many raids people don't run 20ths for items...gives a new incentive. Having it at 20 forces you to make a choice if you wanted an item, having to make choices is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zDragonz View Post
    Not signed because that is too many. The potions that are bought with comm's are already OP and to have the ability to get a lot of them quickly is OP. That is what Amrath is for and these potions have killed that pack.

    Make it a lower number and I would agree.


    Quote Originally Posted by redspecter23 View Post
    I guess my problem is that I don't like that it's based on 20 runs. I want each individual raid to have meaning and not just be a counter on my way to my actual reward. I'd sooner see 25 extra coms added to each completion than 500 on the 20th. I don't like that raiding now is just a race to 20, check the list and repeat if necessary. I have no technical problem with adding 500 coms as a 20th list option, it just devalues my 1st through 19th completion even more than it already is.
    Raiding isnt just a race to 20 now, raiding is dead.
    How does it devalue your 1st 19 runs when they got you to 20?
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