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    Default Bug Report the Commendation Drop Rate

    I would recommend that everybody bug report the Commendation drop rate. The intent stated by the developers was that by the time someone was done leveling a character from level 20 to level 28 that character would have enough commendations to epic true reincarnate. That clearly is not the case in game so therefore it must be bugged. Everybody submit bug reports on this so this bug can be resolved as soon as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I would recommend that everybody bug report the Commendation drop rate. The intent stated by the developers was that by the time someone was done leveling a character from level 20 to level 28 that character would have enough commendations to epic true reincarnate. That clearly is not the case in game so therefore it must be bugged. Everybody submit bug reports on this so this bug can be resolved as soon as possible.
    Since you started at 20 the day it went live on the 12th, how many did you have by time you were 28?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Since you started at 20 the day it went live on the 12th, how many did you have by time you were 28?
    Friend of mine got 1900 from 20 to 28.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    I would recommend that everybody bug report the Commendation drop rate. The intent stated by the developers was that by the time someone was done leveling a character from level 20 to level 28 that character would have enough commendations to epic true reincarnate. That clearly is not the case in game so therefore it must be bugged. Everybody submit bug reports on this so this bug can be resolved as soon as possible.
    The drop rate is perfectly fine the way it is. Why is everyone crying because they can't ER in a couple days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    Friend of mine got 1900 from 20 to 28.
    Did he ransack any quests?
    Did he play actual progression or farm certain quests?
    What difficulty did he run on? Was it consistent?
    Did he run EVERY quest available?
    Did he have any boosts running? Did he use a box?

    I, myself, haven't been trying. I have run 5 quests in the past day, all on EH, except one EE that I didn't get bestowed so I didn't even get comms...and I have right around 100 comms. Doesn't seem that bad to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    The drop rate is perfectly fine the way it is. Why is everyone crying because they can't ER in a couple days?
    You have to wait 3 days to reincarnate fyi. The reality is you have to level 28 and then do the same amount of quests after you level 28 as to what you leveled to 28. The devs said all you had to do was level from 20 to 28 and that was it whereas the reality is you have to level from 20 to 28 two times in order to get enough commendations to epic true reincarnate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    Friend of mine got 1900 from 20 to 28.
    Inform your friend that you get more comms from higher level quests and on higher difficulties?

    EN is not going to cut it and will take longer then doing them on EH or on EE.

    Have your friend post what Quests, level, and difficulty. You know Matt that "I heard it from a friend' type info won't fly, especially on these boards.

    I'm doing EE and getting 45-50 each, clearly your friend is not doing that.

    It is not bugged. The amount of comms you get depend on the Quest Level and difficulty. He is either doing low level Epics and/or Low level difficulty.

    If he wants to earn 4200 comms in 6 days he will have to up his zerg plan and adjust to do high level quests on higher difficulties.

    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    The drop rate is perfectly fine the way it is. Why is everyone crying because they can't ER in a couple days?
    Firstly, what makes you say they're crying? I'm sure I've warned you about hyperbole at least a million times by now. Why do people like you always have to ask questions that demean others?

    As for "a couple days" I think that the dedicated should be able to do it within a week. If not, they've made it too expensive. (Admittedly, I'd never be dedicated enough to have TRed in a week, but it was doable.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    Did he ransack any quests?
    Did he play actual progression or farm certain quests?
    What difficulty did he run on? Was it consistent?
    Did he run EVERY quest available?
    Did he have any boosts running? Did he use a box?

    I, myself, haven't been trying. I have run 5 quests in the past day, all on EH, except one EE that I didn't get bestowed so I didn't even get comms...and I have right around 100 comms. Doesn't seem that bad to me.
    I did 5 Quests tonight and have over 200, all high level, all on EE, all in just over two hours.

    Personal gameplay experience in not matching up with "I heard it from a friend" information.

    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeton_Seraph View Post
    Firstly, what makes you say they're crying? I'm sure I've warned you about hyperbole at least a million times by now. Why do people like you always have to ask questions that demean others?

    As for "a couple days" I think that the dedicated should be able to do it within a week. If not, they've made it too expensive. (Admittedly, I'd never be dedicated enough to have TRed in a week, but it was doable.)
    Because there have been countless threads where people are "crying" (not literally, at least, not to my knowledge) that it's too high. I think the truly dedicated CAN get it within a week, if they are starting at 20 (or even 28) and running through every quest on EE that is available as epic, they will have enough for a heart before they hit the expansion, or at least one to two quests into it. It has been shown that the truly dedicated can take a 20 to 28 in a couple days time...but these people are playing for 20-30 hours in the time span....so not exactly the norm.

    I believe that it shouldn't be based on the truly dedicated, but the average player. It should take the average player around one month to earn enough if they did a steady playtime for it. As I said, I haven't even been trying (I'll get my free hearts just for being VIP next month!) but after just barely playing (like, around an hour, maybe an hour and a half of actual in quest time) I have around 100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeton_Seraph View Post
    Firstly, what makes you say they're crying? I'm sure I've warned you about hyperbole at least a million times by now. Why do people like you always have to ask questions that demean others?

    As for "a couple days" I think that the dedicated should be able to do it within a week. If not, they've made it too expensive. (Admittedly, I'd never be dedicated enough to have TRed in a week, but it was doable.)
    Sure, doing the right quest level and right difficulty.

    Facerolling EN Red Fens will take one far longer then one doing Underdark, High Road, Or Druids Curse on EH/EE.

    Why do a Quest and only get 18 CoV when you can do one for 45-50? If one wants to take the path of least resistance, 18CoV per run, it WILL take them longer then someone else taking the harder route of 45-50 a run.

    Quote Originally Posted by hsinclair
    I heard the devs hate all wizards, bards, clerics, fighters, and fuzzy bunnies and only want us to play halfling barbarian/paladin shuriken specialists!

    It's totally true, I have a reliable source. You better reroll now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    I'm doing EE and getting 45-50 each, clearly your friend is not doing that.
    Lets show people the math so they can evaluate your statement.

    EE comms per end reward = 5* (Quest Level modified by difficulty setting - 17)

    The others = 3*(QL -17) for EH and 2*(QL-17) for EN.

    So if you are getting 45-50 each you are doing level 26 and 27 quests. IE, not epic vons, sands, devil assault, pirates stuff, carnival, lords of dust chain, motu chains 1-3. I would guess that a few people certainly do run those things and amazingly they gain xp by doing so.
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    so confusing.. it seem some people on forum enjoy mindless grind.. it is very hard to understand for me..

    farming million times for an item is one thing..equipment will benefit character even enable build from times to time.. but epic tr? doesn't make you much stronger.. and all you get is to repeat everything all over again.. hmm

    wonder why people want a long boring grind for such item?? perhaps they just want those people who had a life to get away from this game? confusing..

    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Inform your friend that you get more comms from higher level quests and on higher difficulties?

    EN is not going to cut it and will take longer then doing them on EH or on EE.

    Have your friend post what Quests, level, and difficulty. You know Matt that "I heard it from a friend' type info won't fly, especially on these boards.

    I'm doing EE and getting 45-50 each, clearly your friend is not doing that.

    It is not bugged. The amount of comms you get depend on the Quest Level and difficulty. He is either doing low level Epics and/or Low level difficulty.

    If he wants to earn 4200 comms in 6 days he will have to up his zerg plan and adjust to do high level quests on higher difficulties.
    do you grind from 20 to 28 entire on ee content? if yes, good for you. but how many people can do this?? i know a few casual friends who can't even solo eh alone.. so basically you are saying is only those who can solo ee are worthy of etr? is that it? i doubt much people will choose to grind few hundred quest just to etr.. and people who sit at 28 but not even half of the comm are most likely just leave this game.. is that what you want? so you can solo more as you pleases? XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    I did 5 Quests tonight and have over 200, all high level, all on EE, all in just over two hours.

    Personal gameplay experience in not matching up with "I heard it from a friend" information.
    If you are justifying the numbers by running EE, you are doing it wrong. The devs claim is that the 4200 number is based on EH runs from 20-28. Try again.

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    It should be balanced for EH, not EE. I'm highly skeptical that the average player is running EE exclusively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    It should be balanced for EH, not EE. I'm highly skeptical that the average player is running EE exclusively.
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    I been trying to get a seal for the AGA and ran snitch 4 times today on EH got 10 or 17 total valcoms for all 4 runs. I have been actually farming xp for destiny since I recently hit 20 on my caster (its a TR char that had never done epics before) so far this week I got 3 levels in magister, 3 in draconic and have 1 level in fatesinger.

    I have a whopping total of 27 valcoms and I am level 23, I haven't seen valcoms in the quests rewards list but 2 times.

    Btw I don't run EE except for when I am specifically farming for endgame loot because I have decided to stay at endgame for awhile which hasn't happened in a long time.

    Myself like many of my guildies are on a TRing wagon where we 1 to 20 do a quick romp in epics and TR again. There is no reason for us to run EE.

    I firmly believe EE is only good for the loot so only run it when I am wanting loot other than that I play mostly duo with my wife and don't want to pug anything but raids.
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    I suppose that 4200 is calculated for lvl 30 cap, than now that is just 28 seems to be a lot related to XP
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    you get more comms from higher level quests and on higher difficulties?
    This is true, but also you can't enter higher quests on lvl 20 characters. So you can't compare the quests you'd run from 20 to 28(30) with the ones you are able to run now with an already capped toon. As the devs said it should be calculated on a character leveling from 20 to cap

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