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    Default ED twist exploit was not fixed with update 20

    I see plenty people starting from level 1 who use ED twist abitlies in quests.

    I was hoping you did fix it in update 20.

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    why? i don't see any point fixing it.. seem nice to have it.. =P help alot leveling tr toon~~ everyone will benefit right?

    p.s. if you are role player.. people can zerg without this.. they are not really game changing.. just make things easier for everyone. which is good imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by burningwind View Post
    why? i don't see any point fixing it.. seem nice to have it.. =P help alot leveling tr toon~~ everyone will benefit right?

    p.s. if you are role player.. people can zerg without this.. they are not really game changing.. just make things easier for everyone. which is good imo
    Duping was ok then, too, right? I mean, it made getting those hard to obtain items a lot easier...

    No, it isn't ok. It's a bug. It is exploiting a bug, thus, an exploit, and against the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burningwind View Post
    why? i don't see any point fixing it.. seem nice to have it.. =P help alot leveling tr toon~~ everyone will benefit right?

    p.s. if you are role player.. people can zerg without this.. they are not really game changing.. just make things easier for everyone. which is good imo
    The point in fixing it is to have it work CORRECTLY. Either fix it so that twists can not be used in Heroic, or fix it to make twists in Heroic useable intentionally for everyone without tricks and exploits. One way or the other so long as it is fixed.
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    lol *gets popcorn ready*

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalHazard View Post
    lol *gets popcorn ready*
    I sense much greatness in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burningwind View Post
    why? i don't see any point fixing it.. seem nice to have it.. =P help alot leveling tr toon~~ everyone will benefit right?

    p.s. if you are role player.. people can zerg without this.. they are not really game changing.. just make things easier for everyone. which is good imo
    Is Heroic so hard for you that you need to use Epic Level abilities on a non-Epic level character?

    You have been told it is NOT WAI. You know you are not supposed to use it.

    When it is removed properly and permanently and/or those using it are punished if need be, then that will be good for everyone.

    Heroics easier. Give me a break....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    Duping was ok then, too, right?
    Don't be stoopid. Duping deprived Turbine of profits. The only similarity remotely relevant is that they're exploits. If you think ethics or morality apply equally between these exploits, you need more time in RL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeton_Seraph View Post
    Don't be stoopid. Duping deprived Turbine of profits. The only similarity remotely relevant is that they're exploits. If you think ethics or morality apply equally between these exploits, you need more time in RL.
    If they're exploiting the game and making it easier, it means they need to use the Store less often. If they use the store less often, Turbine is deprived of profits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaeton_Seraph View Post
    Don't be stoopid. Duping deprived Turbine of profits. The only similarity remotely relevant is that they're exploits. If you think ethics or morality apply equally between these exploits, you need more time in RL.
    Oh no, Turbine wants money? How dare they!!!

    Seriously though, it does apply equally. You (maybe not YOU, specifically, but you, generalized) find a loophole in the rules, and are told "THIS IS NOT WAI" and then continue to abuse said loophole for personal gain. Yes, it very much applies the same way.
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    Default pathetic

    One word, pathetic.

    This still not being fixed is pathetic.

    People who cheat in multiplayer games are pathetic.

    People who attempt to justify being exploitive are pathetic(and entirely transparent).

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    Default As I said in the first post U20 "Did they fix the cheating?" thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    No, it isn't ok. It's a bug. It is exploiting a bug, thus, an exploit, and against the rules.
    What did Turbine do about people short cutting Temple of Vol?

    •Alter the Key mechanic to prevent it.

    What did Turbine do about people exploiting Guild Chests with Bags?

    •Prevent bags from going into Guild Chests.

    What did Turbine do about top level gear on under level toons?

    •Institue the "Burden of Guilt" and remove the mechanic by which such gear was equipped.

    What did Turbine do about Heroic Characters using Twists?

    •Simplify the process.

    Seems to me that certain people's opinions of what is cheating, and/or how sever of a problem it is does not coincide with Turbine's opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PermaBanned View Post
    What did Turbine do about people short cutting Temple of Vol?

    •Alter the Key mechanic to prevent it.

    What did Turbine do about people exploiting Guild Chests with Bags?

    •Prevent bags from going into Guild Chests.

    What did Turbine do about top level gear on under level toons?

    •Institue the "Burden of Guilt" and remove the mechanic by which such gear was equipped.

    What did Turbine do about Heroic Characters using Twists?

    •Simplify the process.

    Seems to me that certain people's opinions of what is cheating, and/or how sever of a problem it is does not coincide with Turbine's opinion.
    This.

    If they thought it was an exploit they would have fixed it all ready.
    And seeing that they did fix that other real big thing.

    Btw twists are not an exploit as it doesn't have a min level to use em (only a min level to gain em).

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    Normally I support Turbine in most stuff they do because, they like, bring us the game for a cheap price and lots of fun. This bug really annoys me however. I don't want to see a character run around and agro everything, disrupting the whole group and then throw off a primal scream and kill them all and say, 'what?'. There are new players in this group and they ask how do I get that? So what do you tell them? Learn to cheat? It is bad for the game to allow this exists. The Devs should either allow twisted abilities in TR lives or fix this.

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    Did Turbine officially say this wasn't WAI? Is there a link?

    I ask because there are no secret/exploity steps to use them. Nothing unusual in how you use the interface. It's literally just using the game normally, exactly as designed. And the latest change made the process simpler.

    EDIT: To clarify, it's hard to interpret using a normal game system normally as an exploit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffyanne View Post
    Normally I support Turbine in most stuff they do because, they like, bring us the game for a cheap price and lots of fun. This bug really annoys me however. I don't want to see a character run around and agro everything, disrupting the whole group and then throw off a primal scream and kill them all and say, 'what?'. There are new players in this group and they ask how do I get that? So what do you tell them? Learn to cheat? It is bad for the game to allow this exists. The Devs should either allow twisted abilities in TR lives or fix this.
    So, you don't like poeple primal screaming low lvl mobs.
    OK I get that.
    Tell me, what do you do when sorcs aggros everything, is displaced, stoneskinned and repairing himself, taking no damage, and then casts empowered maximized acid blast to 1 shot dungeon?

    Because, if you ask me, its the same.
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    People who exploit bugs in code are cheaters cheaters cheaters. And they are big fat ****yheads too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisDee37 View Post
    Did Turbine officially say this wasn't WAI? Is there a link?

    I ask because there are no secret/exploity steps to use them. Nothing unusual in how you use the interface. It's literally just using the game normally, exactly as designed. And the latest change made the process simpler.
    Really?
    My only TR got all of his EDs reset, because I accidentally took armor proficiency on leveling, while hardcorely drunk (WF sorc), and fred reseted my EDs. Even if he wouldn't, I had like 1 twist point .

    Anyway, on lamma, when testing ER, there was a huge spam with you can't use twists bellow lvl20, so I thought its fixed, and people are still whining because there are people who set their twists earlier.
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    People who exploit bugs in code are cheaters cheaters cheaters. And they are big fat ****yheads too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorlong View Post
    Duping was ok then, too, right? I mean, it made getting those hard to obtain items a lot easier...

    No, it isn't ok. It's a bug. It is exploiting a bug, thus, an exploit, and against the rules.
    dupe hurt anyone? yes, it hurt people. using destiny twist hurt anyone? don't think so.. what make you so sure it is not wai?

    Quote Originally Posted by darkly_dreaming View Post
    The point in fixing it is to have it work CORRECTLY. Either fix it so that twists can not be used in Heroic, or fix it to make twists in Heroic useable intentionally for everyone without tricks and exploits. One way or the other so long as it is fixed.
    so hard to understand, as if this actually hurt anyone.. could someone please explain why people want to make none end game stuff harder? confusing.. if you are talking about fairness of game, then perhaps they should remove tome in cash shop.. also past life feat.. make these none functional until cap maybe? =P


    Quote Originally Posted by Hendrik View Post
    Is Heroic so hard for you that you need to use Epic Level abilities on a non-Epic level character?

    You have been told it is NOT WAI. You know you are not supposed to use it.

    When it is removed properly and permanently and/or those using it are punished if need be, then that will be good for everyone.

    Heroics easier. Give me a break....

    heroic aren't much of challenge.. well maybe some of them are.. like amarsh elite.. these are pretty nasty..

    but hey who don't want to be stronger? i mean if they make this legal more people will tr.. and there will be more player playing this empty game.. am really tired of soloing stuff.. every little bit count XD

    p.s. am playing gw2 atm... or at least until they lower the cost of commendation for etr.. the current price..lets just say it is too rich for my gaming.. serious grind really ruin this game.. especially these pointless, meaningless grind.. when game become more of a day job then enjoyment.. people don't intend to stay for very long.. ddo is amazing when you first try out a dungeon.. but after that it is same old repetitive game play .....so why not shorten it, make it enjoyable for those who have experience everything several times already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    Anyway, on lamma, when testing ER, there was a huge spam with you can't use twists bellow lvl20, so I thought its fixed, and people are still whining because there are people who set their twists earlier.

    I asked one of people when he set his ED twists, he told me that he set them after update 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01000010 View Post
    One word, pathetic.

    This still not being fixed is pathetic.

    People who cheat in multiplayer games are pathetic.

    People who attempt to justify being exploitive are pathetic(and entirely transparent).
    Companies that cannot fix a exploitable bug after nearly 2 years of trying............................PATHETIC LOL!!!.

    Well I say trying........................

    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    So, you don't like poeple primal screaming low lvl mobs.
    OK I get that.
    Tell me, what do you do when sorcs aggros everything, is displaced, stoneskinned and repairing himself, taking no damage, and then casts empowered maximized acid blast to 1 shot dungeon?

    Because, if you ask me, its the same.
    I will tell you what I would do sir..............I would come to the forums and start a thread about it, where I would wail and gnash my teeth!!!
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