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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon2fire View Post
    I feel like some one should post on this so i will. Making coms btc is going to really really hurt pugs. How you ask. It will make it so people are less willing to alt to heals since they need so many for the new hearts. I know the fanbois will come out and shout me down what ever some one needs to say this. Devs you are hurting your game in more ways then you realize and your doing it for a obvious cash grab.
    Your late to the game, this was covered extensively on Llama and we already know they are BtC.

    People will be far more apt to heal knowing they can trade the Hearts they are working for to alts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by era42 View Post
    I play more toons, but I'm at the same situation, mostly.

    I have 3 fun toons at 28, waiting to ER. I won't be gathering the comms with them, because the exp would go to waste (maxed karma already), and the amount of farming is ridiculous (15 tokens from EH VoN3, 4200 tokens for a heart, no thanks).

    I have another 3 toons at 20-23. But, they are not that fun to play at epics, hence they haven't been touched for a while. Now, I would get the exp but as playing is less fun, being forced to play only _one_ those less fun toons is not going to happen. There's a reason they were left close to 20, they aren't as fun in epics as they were in heroics, or alternatively the class has suffered since leveling (the bard: I'm looking at you). Now they're really there waiting for a new silly TR-idea I want to try. So, they're out.

    I have several alt/TR projects too, but zero ED exp on those, so staying in one sphere for 6m (after reaching 20) sounds cumbersome. One of them might end up being fun enough in epics that I'll gather the tokens, but odds of me wanting to play only on one of my silly TR tests for a full 20-28 range without touching other toons is ridiculous.

    I just did a full VoN tier, VoN 1-6 all on EH. That netted me a nifty 84 commendations. Lets round it to an even hundred, and it just takes 1.5 months to get a single heart on a single toon. Spread that evenly across my 4 active epic toons and add 1-2 for the inactives, and we're approaching one year of farming before I'll get my first ER. Sure, by then I'll be able to do 4-6 straight away, but the goal seems so distant I'm really not prepared to even start.

    Another retire seems pretty damn close. And honestly, I kind of doubt the game will survive another 1-2 year break for me. I'll wait to see if the situation improves, but for now it really doesn't look good. Which is a shame. U20 fixed lots of silly abuses, the TR system itself is nice, just sucks that getting the reinc heart is a (much) bigger hurdle than getting the exp for reinc. It wouldn't be nearly this bad if the epic reinc hadn't been advertised beforehand for such a long time, making me stick to epic levels for as long as I have (actually reaching 28 etc).
    Sounds like you and me on the same page.

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    When I started playing DDO it was a game that rewarded players with lots of alts, somewhat encouraging it in some areas:

    - Daily limit on questing (not by-passable)
    - Raids 3 Day timer (not by-passable)
    - BTA epic tokens
    - Gear grind focused game.

    The game has simply moved onto being a single toon, experience grind focused game.

    Are these new changes bad? maybe not for everyone. For me they are though, I've got a stable of toons I can't play effectively the same way the game used to allow for.

    The new single character focus is less attractive to me than the old ways, I now have less fun playing and play much less, soon I'll probably quit all together.

    Dilnu, it's time for you to accept it and do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fTdOmen View Post
    When I started playing DDO it was a game that rewarded players with lots of alts, somewhat encouraging it in some areas:

    - Daily limit on questing (not by-passable)
    - Raids 3 Day timer (not by-passable)
    - BTA epic tokens
    - Gear grind focused game.

    The game has simply moved onto being a single toon, experience grind focused game.

    Are these new changes bad? maybe not for everyone. For me they are though, I've got a stable of toons I can't play effectively the same way the game used to allow for.

    The new single character focus is less attractive to me than the old ways, I now have less fun playing and play much less, soon I'll probably quit all together.

    Dilnu, it's time for you to accept it and do the same.
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    Im perfectly fine with it !! I got 65 coms from brothers of the forge on EE !!

    Running 65 quests on EE , And ill have enough for an E heart , You mofos bit.h like girls when it ain't handed to you .

    Go hard or don't complain !!!

    PS. It would take me about a week with minimal time spent to earn that maybe 2 hours a day !!

    So much for this being a system with a slow progressive nature .

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    Quote Originally Posted by murf201 View Post
    Im perfectly fine with it !! I got 65 coms from brothers of the forge on EE !!

    Running 65 quests on EE , And ill have enough for an E heart , You mofos bit.h like girls when it ain't handed to you .

    Go hard or don't complain !!!

    PS. It would take me about a week with minimal time spent to earn that maybe 2 hours a day !!

    So much for this being a system with a slow progressive nature .
    You call 10 days fast. I do 2 full lives in that time usually. Grinding out coms when you already have the loot and epic destiny xp is a grind no matter how you try to say otherwise.

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    I agree that bound to character on acquire items tend to force you into playing only certain characters. Most of my alts will just sit on the bench.

    Turbine needs to make money and I am fine with that. However, I think they should lower the cost of epic hearts of wood and offer better trade-ins for commendations of valor such as the ability to upgrade an Epic Hard weapon to Epic Elite for 1000 coms or something like that. This way people will voluntarily choose to use their coms for something else and buying the heart of wood from the store instead of grumbling about what a long grind it is.

    With that said, this is mostly an issue with the first epic heart only because once you are back to 20 you will acquire quite a few coms before hitting level cap. Ironically, people will be less likely to use xp pots and boxes since they would still need to grind for the heart.

    I appreciate the free VIP heart for all epic characters. That is truly a really nice gesture for VIPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragon2fire View Post
    You call 10 days fast. I do 2 full lives in that time usually. Grinding out coms when you already have the loot and epic destiny xp is a grind no matter how you try to say otherwise.
    Different forkin system !!! And that's the problem you and people like you expect this to go as fast as original tr's go .

    But don't worry with the lack of a life i think you can lead the pack in ETR'N

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    Quote Originally Posted by slarden View Post
    Turbine needs to make money and I am fine with that. However, I think they should lower the cost of epic hearts of wood and offer better trade-ins for commendations of valor such as the ability to upgrade an Epic Hard weapon to Epic Elite for 1000 coms or something like that. This way people will voluntarily choose to use their coms for something else and buying the heart of wood from the store instead of grumbling about what a long grind it is.
    an epic heart of wood is actually cheaper than a heroic heart of wood. when i looked in the store earlier tonight, i believe it was about 300 TP less. ive been going back and forth with myself trying to understand why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murf201 View Post
    Different forkin system !!! And that's the problem you and people like you expect this to go as fast as original tr's go .

    But don't worry with the lack of a life i think you can lead the pack in ETR'N
    I've completed 3 Epic TR's already, I live quite a balanced life too.

    That doesn't mean I'm thrilled with the new Valor system, I would definitely have proffered them being BTA with BTC rewards, just like tokens were.

    Please take your attitude elsewhere, you're not particularly constructive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qhualor View Post
    an epic heart of wood is actually cheaper than a heroic heart of wood. when i looked in the store earlier tonight, i believe it was about 300 TP less. ive been going back and forth with myself trying to understand why.
    8 levels instead of 20?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qhualor View Post
    an epic heart of wood is actually cheaper than a heroic heart of wood. when i looked in the store earlier tonight, i believe it was about 300 TP less. ive been going back and forth with myself trying to understand why.
    Slower to farm + cheaper to buy = more sales?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qhualor View Post
    an epic heart of wood is actually cheaper than a heroic heart of wood. when i looked in the store earlier tonight, i believe it was about 300 TP less. ive been going back and forth with myself trying to understand why.
    I was actually referring to the commendation of Valor cost being too high. I think they should lower that cost and offer other good things to do with the coms such as upgrade EN and EN non-raid items to the next tier. Then people may choose to buy hearts because they want to use their coms to upgrade.

    I don't have an opinion on the TP cost, although it's smart to lower the cost so people are more willing to buy it. It wouldn't shock me if the price is raised in a few months.
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