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    Default Very Nasty Raiders Box qualification Change

    This is a pretty nasty change to make without warning Between the last Lammania build on Nov 8th and the release on Nov 11th....


    U20 Official Release Notes:
    As an apology for the issues with Raid 20th completion reward lists during Update 19, a Raider's Reward Box should appear in your inventory if you meet one of the two prerequisites:

    • You completed a Raid on your current life between updates 19 and 20. (excluding Chronoscope or Tempest Spire.)


    From Lammania 11/8/2012 Release Notes:
    As an apology for the issues with Raid 20th completion reward lists, a Raider's Reward Box should appear in your inventory if you meet one of the two prerequisites:

    • You have completed a Raid on your current life. (This does not include Chronoscope or Tempest





    EDIT: Cordovan posted below that the lammania notes appear to be correct, so there may not be an issue
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    Very nasty indeed, because it means people who could have easily made themselves eligible for a raider's box (my guild ran a raid night this weekend and specifically reminded people to run a raid if they hadn't yet this life) didn't become eligible because they thought they already were. Incredibly misleading.
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    *sigh* There were 2 or maybe even 3 toons I didn't both to run a raid on based on the original wording.

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    I noticed that too.

    Instead of getting a Raider's box on all of my characters, I get a Raider's box on none of my characters.

    ...would have been nice if they had announced that change BEFORE THE UPDATE.
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    Huh? i hadnt even noticed the first wording, since i was sure they meant the second
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    *sigh* There were 2 or maybe even 3 toons I didn't both to run a raid on based on the original wording.
    My 1st life level 20 bard that hasn't seen the inside of a raid in more than a year has a box sitting in his inventory.

    Going to check my 7+ year old barbarian that hasn't been inside a quest in 3 years next...

    edit: Yep, it's there waiting.

    Text changed, but the results are the same.

    My TR1 Arti that was TR'd prior to U19 and hasn't quested this life didn't get a box. Which is as-expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maatogaeoth View Post
    My 1st life level 20 bard that hasn't seen the inside of a raid in more than a year has a box sitting in his inventory.

    Going to check my 7+ year old barbarian that hasn't been inside a quest in 3 years next...
    Yeah looking at some more threads it sounds like delivery of the boxes may be broken. I'll just have to wait till I get home to see. Only 7 hours or so to go...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maatogaeoth View Post
    My 1st life level 20 bard that hasn't seen the inside of a raid in more than a year has a box sitting in his inventory.

    Going to check my 7+ year old barbarian that hasn't been inside a quest in 3 years next...
    I hope this indicates this is a release notes mistake, rather than an in game change. I'm at work so can't check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPICKRELL View Post
    I hope this indicates this is a release notes mistake, rather than an in game change. I'm at work so can't check.
    I sure as the nine hells hope it is a mistake!

    Myself and friends have been going by what we were told and NOT by the sudden change in qualifications.

    We were all told how to qualify, went by those qualifications, and were not told there was a change in those qualifications at the last minute.

    I even asked via PMs for clarifications on how to qualify and went by what I was told.

    Bad form if this was changed at the last minute.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TPICKRELL View Post
    This is a pretty nasty change to make without warning Between the last Lammania build on Nov 8th and the release on Nov 11th....


    U20 Official Release Notes:

    As an apology for the issues with Raid 20th completion reward lists during Update 19, a Raider's Reward Box should appear in your inventory if you meet one of the two prerequisites:

    • You completed a Raid on your current life between updates 19 and 20. (excluding Chronoscope or Tempest Spire.)


    From Lammania 11/8/2012 Release Notes:

    As an apology for the issues with Raid 20th completion reward lists, a Raider's Reward Box should appear in your inventory if you meet one of the two prerequisites:

    • You have completed a Raid on your current life. (This does not include Chronoscope or Tempest Spine.

    yeah but the way i raid it as well since it said tr after update 19 i assumed the raids were the same too. not just run a raid period. that was just my understanding

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    I agree the wording on LAM notes is not the same as todays release notes:

    However, Our guild took the meaning as it is in the Release notes as it made logical sense about running a raid or TR between U19 and U20. For the past weeks we have been running raids (a couple+ a night) to make sure every active guild member qualified on all of their characters.

    Basically it can be said we to the cautious route. But I believe everyone that misread or was misinformed should take it up with Turbine and hope to get a satisfactory response.

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    It appears that the text in the Release Notes may be incorrect. The way it - should - work:

    1. Anyone who underwent a True Reincarnation following the release of Update 19 should receive a Raider's Reward Box.
    2. Anyone who completed a raid (except for Chronoscope or Tempest Spine) at any time on their current life should receive a Raider's Reward Box.


    We are investigating some reports of people who claim to be qualified who have not received their Raider's Reward Box, and will provide more information once we get more time to investigate what's going on. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    It appears that the text in the Release Notes may be incorrect. The way it - should - work:

    1. Anyone who underwent a True Reincarnation following the release of Update 19 should receive a Raider's Reward Box.
    2. Anyone who completed a raid (except for Chronoscope or Tempest Spine) at any time on their current life should receive a Raider's Reward Box.


    We are investigating some reports of people who claim to be qualified who have not received their Raider's Reward Box, and will provide more information once we get more time to investigate what's going on. Thanks!
    Thank you for the prompt clarification and update.

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    I have a couple of characters that haven't raided in well over a year and they got boxes and they are first life characters around 15 level

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    It appears that the text in the Release Notes may be incorrect. The way it - should - work:

    1. Anyone who underwent a True Reincarnation following the release of Update 19 should receive a Raider's Reward Box.
    2. Anyone who completed a raid (except for Chronoscope or Tempest Spine) at any time on their current life should receive a Raider's Reward Box.


    We are investigating some reports of people who claim to be qualified who have not received their Raider's Reward Box, and will provide more information once we get more time to investigate what's going on. Thanks!
    I have a screen shot, showing my +20 heart in my TR's reincarnation cache, but no raiders box. Sent it with my bug report since the ticket was closed with no resolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    It appears that the text in the Release Notes may be incorrect. The way it - should - work:

    1. Anyone who underwent a True Reincarnation following the release of Update 19 should receive a Raider's Reward Box.
    2. Anyone who completed a raid (except for Chronoscope or Tempest Spine) at any time on their current life should receive a Raider's Reward Box.


    We are investigating some reports of people who claim to be qualified who have not received their Raider's Reward Box, and will provide more information once we get more time to investigate what's going on. Thanks!
    The misinformation and lack of clarity has been evident for weeks.

    At least on Argo, the assumption from many was that both a TR and a raid completion were needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    It appears that the text in the Release Notes may be incorrect. The way it - should - work:

    1. Anyone who underwent a True Reincarnation following the release of Update 19 should receive a Raider's Reward Box.
    2. Anyone who completed a raid (except for Chronoscope or Tempest Spine) at any time on their current life should receive a Raider's Reward Box.


    We are investigating some reports of people who claim to be qualified who have not received their Raider's Reward Box, and will provide more information once we get more time to investigate what's going on. Thanks!
    Thanks for the clarification. It's good to know that this is just a bug and an incorrect release notes change instead of a policy change. This is a bad place to have both a bug and an incorrect release notes change, but that's not surprising for Turbine, so I guess we'll just go with the flow for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordovan View Post
    It appears that the text in the Release Notes may be incorrect. The way it - should - work:

    1. Anyone who underwent a True Reincarnation following the release of Update 19 should receive a Raider's Reward Box.
    2. Anyone who completed a raid (except for Chronoscope or Tempest Spine) at any time on their current life should receive a Raider's Reward Box.


    We are investigating some reports of people who claim to be qualified who have not received their Raider's Reward Box, and will provide more information once we get more time to investigate what's going on. Thanks!


    So, if I TR'd after 19 (which I am sure of, because I used my +20 TR before I TR'd) and I did not get a box, what is the best course of action at this point?

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    Considering the issues were caused during Update 19, I had actually assumed it would be for those who completed a raid between U19 and U20.

    I find it shocking how some people are reacting as well, frankly it sounds like a bunch of entitled petulant children who didn't get any candy on Halloween because their butlers didn't run around to fetch any for them.


    P.S. Thanks to the Dev's for doing this regardless of how it turns out, I have no idea how many boxes I'll get as I didn't go out of my way to specifically raid to try and get one, nor did the 20th completion issue effect me much. But I will appreciate every single box I receive, and I'll appreciate it even if I don't get any.

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