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    Default Seriously, is there some workaround to make sagas functional?

    I'm so freaking tired of this, I spent all day trying to complete the Saga for Gianthold. After completing every quest on Elite, including the Tor and Raid, I go speak to the Saga NPC, only to find it decided not to count Discord, Cry for Help and the raid itself. Now I have to park the character for 3 days so I can stay within level range of pubs that usually run the raid.

    If Sagas are going to be so important to Turbine, you'd think they'd at least have deigned to put in the extremely minimal effort to make them work properly and without failure.
    But nope, instead they turn simple video game development like this into what seems like rocket science.

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    you don't need to wait 3 days. the Reaver raid is not part of the saga.
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    Well then I'm missing something else, then, whatever it is that it counts for the last 2 on the list.
    Either way, it's broken and bad, and shouldn't be used for any important processes.

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    Completed the Gianthold Saga 4 times in the past week.

    No problems here

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    I've also completed it recently many times.

    That said, if you're encountering problems, try to narrow them down before shouting about the saga being broken. You have already been corrected once about the fact that the raid is not part of the saga. Calm down, take a breath and describe your problem in a bit more detail and perhaps your problem can be solved.

    There is a bug where if you're dead upon quest completion, you won't get credit. It's supposed to be fixed with U20 (or possibly fixed on live now, not sure)

    Also, Cabal for One and Crucible have their names swapped. If it says you still need to do one of these, it's the other you actually need.
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    I completed Cabal for One and Prison of the Planes last night and the saga giver does not show me having completed any of the quests. (So it's different from the quests being swapped bug) I soloed them and never died. I'll check him again tonight to see if relogging makes a difference.

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    The only problem I've had wiht the gianthold saga is the switchup on Cabal and Crucible. For some reason the saga giver has them reversed, so if it shows you did Crucible you really did cabal and vice versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TekkenDevil View Post
    I'm so freaking tired of this, I spent all day trying to complete the Saga for Gianthold. After completing every quest on Elite, including the Tor and Raid, I go speak to the Saga NPC, only to find it decided not to count Discord, Cry for Help and the raid itself. Now I have to park the character for 3 days so I can stay within level range of pubs that usually run the raid.

    If Sagas are going to be so important to Turbine, you'd think they'd at least have deigned to put in the extremely minimal effort to make them work properly and without failure.
    But nope, instead they turn simple video game development like this into what seems like rocket science.
    were you dead when the quests were completed, currently is a bug (think the fix is in u20) where if your dead then it wont count for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TekkenDevil View Post
    Well then I'm missing something else, then, whatever it is that it counts for the last 2 on the list.
    Either way, it's broken and bad, and shouldn't be used for any important processes.
    I feel for you. I only had Crucible left *shudder* and when I logged in today after a week break I suddenly had three more left to do I'll eventually get Crucible done; man I hate that quest.


    P.S. There was a patch/update but not sure what that addressed while I was gone over the week.

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    I was not dead for any of the completions, or at least not upon the completion trigger.
    The sagas are just broken and it's ridiculous, considering they want to rely on them for reincarnation now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TekkenDevil View Post
    I was not dead for any of the completions, or at least not upon the completion trigger.
    The sagas are just broken and it's ridiculous, considering they want to rely on them for reincarnation now...
    Except they dont. And dont seem to be broken for most.
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    I think it was Cabal that didn't count for me in the GH saga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TekkenDevil View Post
    I was not dead for any of the completions, or at least not upon the completion trigger.
    The sagas are just broken and it's ridiculous, considering they want to rely on them for reincarnation now...
    Sagas have nothing to do with reincarnation.....

    Sagas are a bonus and are not needed for anything.
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    Are you sure you're looking at the right Saga person, Heroic/Elite have different people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bartharok View Post
    Except they dont. And dont seem to be broken for most.
    Been working Heroic GH all night myself and every single Quest has been counted.

    OP, you must provide details if you expect any type of help at all.

    You have been wrong on a couple points so far and Saga's ARE functional.

    What is the name of the Saga NPC you are talking to?

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    You need to take it easier on the OP, he may be on to something. Just because "you" haven't had the issue, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

    I just finished the Crucible this evening. It was the last quest I needed to run for the saga on heroic. I went to turn it in and was told I needed to complete Cabal for one, (If you read the text, he states Crucible.) On list of quest completed, Cabal for one is incomplete yet Crucible is complete.

    I have completed every quest in GH, including the raid. Crucible was all I needed to finish, and it seems I need to run it again.
    No, I wasn't dead on completion. The only quest I did die in was the raid and I was resed prior to completion.

    Yeah, something is indeed afoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenAmazing View Post
    You need to take it easier on the OP, he may be on to something. Just because "you" haven't had the issue, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

    I just finished the Crucible this evening. It was the last quest I needed to run for the saga on heroic. I went to turn it in and was told I needed to complete Cabal for one, (If you read the text, he states Crucible.) On list of quest completed, Cabal for one is incomplete yet Crucible is complete.

    I have completed every quest in GH, including the raid. Crucible was all I needed to finish, and it seems I need to run it again.
    No, I wasn't dead on completion. The only quest I did die in was the raid and I was resed prior to completion.

    Yeah, something is indeed afoot.
    That's right.
    But it's also not very helpful if all the OP says is "It's broken and needs a fix.", but doesn't provide any details, what it is that is not working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TekkenDevil View Post
    The sagas are just broken and it's ridiculous, considering they want to rely on them for reincarnation now...
    Sagas have nothing to do with reincarnation anymore, and they work just fine for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenAmazing View Post
    You need to take it easier on the OP, he may be on to something. Just because "you" haven't had the issue, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

    I just finished the Crucible this evening. It was the last quest I needed to run for the saga on heroic. I went to turn it in and was told I needed to complete Cabal for one, (If you read the text, he states Crucible.) On list of quest completed, Cabal for one is incomplete yet Crucible is complete.

    I have completed every quest in GH, including the raid. Crucible was all I needed to finish, and it seems I need to run it again.
    No, I wasn't dead on completion. The only quest I did die in was the raid and I was resed prior to completion.

    Yeah, something is indeed afoot.
    Prior to update 20, Crucible completions were being counted as Cabal completions, and vice-versa. Which worked out fine if you did all the quests, since you would count as having done all the quests. If you did Cabal prior to the update, it was counted as a Crucible completion. If you'd done Crucible prior to the update, it would have counted as your Cabal completion, and you'd have been all finished.

    But now, Crucible completions actually count as Crucible completions. Except you already have a "Crucible" completion from the pre-update Cabal. So it gets double counted and you still have to run Cabal, which will now actually count as Cabal.

    On the plus side, I had a character that ran Cabal pre- and post- update, skipping Crucible entirely.

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    There seems to be a bug that doesn't let you complete the saga if that quest is still active on the heroic/epic side of things.

    That is to say, if you are going for the epic saga completion, make sure you don't have any of the heroic quests still active, it seems to do something to bug them out. I had this happen to me on a couple of these, I had picked up the heroic quests again and once I went back and re-did the quest WITHOUT picking them up again, things worked as expected. Granted, this wasn't for GH, but the same bug may still apply.

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