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    Default Time for a Threnal change.

    To the Devs.

    Since the introduction of Bravery Bonus some of us try to preserve quests to do at maximum level for BB.
    If this means multiple visits to an area and breaking up a chain we don't care, its all good.

    To the point Threnal goes something like this

    At Level 10
    West 1 (BB)
    West 2 (BB)

    At level 11
    East 1 (BB)

    At Level 12
    West 3 (BB)
    East 2 (BB)
    East 3 (Lets be honest we get a L28 Favored soul guildy to help here so no-one cares what its level is)

    Now we are finally flagged to enter south and ....

    South 1 (L9 quest NO BB)
    South 2 (L9 quest NO BB)
    South 3 (BB)

    It is about time you address this poor design for those of us who do bother to do it. I suggest simply changing South 1 and 2 to Level 10 so we get BB there.
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    Your reasoning is sound

    But this chain is seven years old and I would say hardly ever run by most folks nowadays - though I still do on some TR lives

    This would probably rank 1'000'000 in Turbines to do list

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    Threnal has needed an overhaul for years now - and beyond the cosmetic ones to the outer area.
    But in all honesty, I've given up on ever seeing it happen.
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    If you can't do Threnal East 3 on elite at level then you just need to ask people to help you with it and learn how to do it. It's super easy if you have a good party.

    That being said I would love to see something done with Threnal but I think that ship has long since sailed.
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    Default I run this once at level and then to farm the Mantel

    I run this chain once at level, but don't bother with BB or worrying about XP. However, I do come back to the chain to farm the Mantle. I may visit this chain 2-3 times per life.

    Voice of Master + Mantel of the Worldshaper +5 Greater Tokens of the Twelve = Master's Gift.

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    I have several of these slotted into different gear for different reasons.

    On a side note, I think its fun to try and get thru that one series of traps in the hallway with no evasion and not bothering to find and disarm the traps. I did it once at level with no damage! I did that a few more times, but only that one time did I time it all right. It was funny the time after the no dam I got promptly killed ahahaha.

    The chain could use a refresh tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memnir View Post
    Threnal has needed an overhaul for years now - and beyond the cosmetic ones to the outer area.
    But in all honesty, I've given up on ever seeing it happen.
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...9-Ask-the-Devs

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    Glin mentions he would like to see Thernal revisted and totally patched up.

    Epic Thernal in the process.

    It is the most messed up quest chains in the DDO, imho.

    This would definitely hit two birds with one stone.

    An Epic Cloak of the Worldshaper would be cool.

    They did a good job on gianthold, so if they decided to go this direction, I would give thumbs up for spending some dev time on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    Really not excited about Epic Threnal. So many other areas of the game they should focus on Epic'ing first. How about Epic Vale of Twilight or Epic Waterworks?

    Turbine should do a poll about which pack or area of the game they should be epic'ing to see how much interest players have in certain areas of the game.
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    I actually am excited about epic Threnal, if they dont put protecting npc quests in there it will be my favorite pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...9-Ask-the-Devs

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    Glin mentions he would like to see Thernal revisted and totally patched up.

    Epic Thernal in the process.

    It is the most messed up quest chains in the DDO, imho.

    This would definitely hit two birds with one stone.

    An Epic Cloak of the Worldshaper would be cool.

    They did a good job on gianthold, so if they decided to go this direction, I would give thumbs up for spending some dev time on it.
    They already scammed people by saying they'd do an epic Mantle as part of their annual charity drive and that turned out to be a lie. It's highly doubtful they'd do it just because the community would like to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eachna_gislin View Post
    They already scammed people by saying they'd do an epic Mantle as part of their annual charity drive and that turned out to be a lie. It's highly doubtful they'd do it just because the community would like to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverleafeon View Post
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    Epic Thernal in the process.
    ...

    Coyle would inevitably have the same 13 HP as he does on heroic difficulties.

    People will try,
    Coyle will die,
    Keyboards will fly,
    Children will cry.

    The end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clemeit View Post
    Coyle would inevitably have the same 13 HP as he does on heroic difficulties.

    People will try,
    Coyle will die,
    Keyboards will fly,
    Children will cry.

    The end.

    Is this what you want!?
    I make my TR duo run the heroic chain every life.

    I'd make them do it in Epics Every Single Life.

    It'd be awesome.

    Yes this is exactly what I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalesh View Post
    Your reasoning is sound

    But this chain is seven years old and I would say hardly ever run by most folks nowadays ....

    ...which is exactly why it needs a face-lift.

    Content that's just sitting there not being used because of <insert reason(s) of choice here> is raw potential with much of the environmental work done already.


    Threnal and Restless Isles are two places a lot of people say they try to avoid, or at the very least don't make repeated runs thru.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdbd3rd View Post
    ...which is exactly why it needs a face-lift.

    Content that's just sitting there not being used because of <insert reason(s) of choice here> is raw potential with much of the environmental work done already.


    Threnal and Restless Isles are two places a lot of people say they try to avoid, or at the very least don't make repeated runs thru.
    If I had to choose, I avoid threnal more, and feel there is more there that has potential.

    Epic Titan raid someday, sure, someday, but threnal first imho...

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    East 3 is easy now, idk when was the last time you did it, but they bumped coyles hp by 4 times, he has around 400-500 hp now, wont get 1-2 shotted anymore, I did it with hire at lvl with no problems.
    But 15 min of protecting stupid npc is the most stupid quest design in the whole game, they just need to delete this quest.

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    I try to hit up threnal and restless isles every life. I don't plan xp / min on spreadsheets for how I TR though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan_Milic View Post
    East 3 is easy now, idk when was the last time you did it, but they bumped coyles hp by 4 times, he has around 400-500 hp now, wont get 1-2 shotted anymore, I did it with hire at lvl with no problems.
    On my last life, I did it with a full group, and purposefully, I asked the group to not knock him down. He was doing fine being wand healed between waves.

    That dwarf escort on West 2 is still fragile as a glass golem. Coyle is sturdy now.
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    Do the first 2 quests in the first chain at level 10, then finish the rest of threnal at level 11.

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    [QUOTE=Drak;5161956]

    East 3 (Lets be honest we get a L28 Favored soul guildy to help here so no-one cares what its level is)
    [QUOTE]

    Solo on Elite this quest is ridiculously easy.

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