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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    When double-points roll around, you can get 8800 TPs for $60... So that's $0.006 per TP or 17 cents for 25 TP... So if it takes you an hour to grind out 25 TP, you're making 17 cents/hour for that work.

    Go work at McDonalds for 10 hours one weekend, then quit, or mow 3-4 lawns next summer, and you'll have the $60 for 8800 TPs. OR, you can grind out 11 quests 352 times.... That's 352 hours of mindless boring grinding, or 6 hours mowing grass.

    I'm amazed that anyone grinds TP.
    I grind for TP on every toon i intend to have around... Which is not quite the same thing, of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by bartharok View Post
    I grind for TP on every toon i intend to have around... Which is not quite the same thing, of course
    Well sure, every TR I get as much favor as I can, I enjoy the little emails and the 25 TPs.

    But that's favor gotten while playing the game, and advancing your character... Grinding out favor on a character, then deleting that character, is an hour spent JUST for 17 cents of favor.
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    Some people brag about how fast they finished the game. I cant think of a stupider thing to brag about. Or in this game, going from level 1 to level 30 in two days, or however long it takes. I can't even begin to imagine what drives a person to think that is fun. You are ignoring all of the content and options and going for sheer speed. It is like going to a museum and bragging about how fast you made it through. Or bragging about how fast you finished a good steak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Well sure, every TR I get as much favor as I can, I enjoy the little emails and the 25 TPs.

    But that's favor gotten while playing the game, and advancing your character... Grinding out favor on a character, then deleting that character, is an hour spent JUST for 17 cents of favor.
    Well, that can be a days pay in some parts of the world.
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    I'd go with them being young as well. I police how my kids play DDO and try to teach them good online etiquette but even with that they can be snots in-game from time to time because...well, they're nine years old. Imagine now a kid playing, F2P completely and not monitored at all by his or her parents...that can definitely go a long way toward explaining erratic or unusual behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    When double-points roll around, you can get 8800 TPs for $60... So that's $0.006 per TP or 17 cents for 25 TP... So if it takes you an hour to grind out 25 TP, you're making 17 cents/hour for that work.

    Go work at McDonalds for 10 hours one weekend, then quit, or mow 3-4 lawns next summer, and you'll have the $60 for 8800 TPs. OR, you can grind out 11 quests 352 times.... That's 352 hours of mindless boring grinding, or 6 hours mowing grass.

    I'm amazed that anyone grinds TP.
    You play a game where some people claim that killing the same priestess over and over again to farm through all destiny XP is better than playing through quests, and youre surprised that people will farm favor rather than buy TP directly?

    Im sure you remember "one more minute wasted in this shroud could have been the first minute in the next shroud run" - of yesteryear.

    I stopped being surprised at this stuff a long time ago. The grind isnt just at the upper levels folks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrok View Post
    I'd go with them being young as well. I police how my kids play DDO and try to teach them good online etiquette but even with that they can be snots in-game from time to time because...well, they're nine years old. Imagine now a kid playing, F2P completely and not monitored at all by his or her parents...that can definitely go a long way toward explaining erratic or unusual behavior.
    I'm going with this explanation. A kid will be embarrassed getting caught stealing from the guild chest and kicked from the guild. They might think their character name will be known throughout the game for this behavior so they delete the character in panic. Only adults have become so jaded and "internet anonymous" that they can beg for plat, steal from the guild chest and get kicked from a guild and then just go on playing like nothing happened.

    Just like the rampant exploiting, this game would be a lot better if players cared more about the quality of player they gamed with.

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    Default I figured it was point farming as well but...

    I see that as extremely weird behavior as well. My first initial thought was that this player was farming Turbine Points but if he is deleting the character that fast and re-creating a new character seems to suggest something else entirely. As a guild leader myself, it is always precarious to bring in new players because of the change of being taken advantage of, but luckily I met many more team players than I have met selfish players.

    Not sure what that particular player was doing, but it does seem to be a strange and unsavory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droid327 View Post
    If it was TP farming, you wouldn't expect that he'd be "experimenting" with builds, he'd probably keep making the same build over and over, with twink gear that he sticks in his shared bank before deleting and recreating.
    Wellp, maybe I'm not hardcore enough, but when I farm favor for TP, I "experiment" with the builds.
    Some things I consider vital, like cleave and expeditious retreat on melee/ maximize on caster, and some DR gear. But otherwise many things are fluid, even the choice between TWF, THF and unarmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    I'm amazed that anyone grinds TP.
    I'm amazed that any U.S.-born citizen would WANT to work at McDonald's.
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