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    My drow toon its about to reincarnate using the +20 LDHoW she only has 11 lvls My first idea was making a kensai with longbows, but know i have to change it. Because my ward needs urgently a fix, and i dont want 2 characters so similar.
    So i think. Why not be a thief and try to use the detect trap racial enhacement? And it will be nice if she can disable traps and lock pick
    And then the questions came to my mind. Multiclass with fighter? to take advantage with the extra feats? With monk and be something weird with staf? or with ranger and take the tempest line with sneak attak?

    I need some to enlighten me

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    A pure rogue Assassin - sorry, D&D stopped calling them "thieves" after 2E - is still your best choice for sneak atk DPS; and a drow makes a natural fit with rogue thanks to their INT & DEX bonuses.

    Here's a sample build:
    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.02
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    Level 28 True Neutral Drow Female
    (20 Rogue \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 314
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 17
    Will: 6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             11                    13
    Dexterity            16                    21
    Constitution         12                    14
    Intelligence         19                    34
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             10                    12
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
    
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Precision
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Drow Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Drow Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Knife in the Darkness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Dagger in the Back (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Assassin's Trick (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Nimbleness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Lethality (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Deadly Shadow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Heartseeker Poison (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Venomed Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Venomed Blades (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Venomed Blades (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Execute (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Assassinate (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Measure the Foe (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Measure the Foe (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Measure the Foe (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Knife Specialization (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Control (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Stick Fighting (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Tumbler (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Kip Up (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sly Flourish (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sly Flourish (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sly Flourish (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Faster Sneaking (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Faster Sneaking (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Faster Sneaking (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Sneak Attack
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Reflexes
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target
    This presumes a +5 DEX tome to qualify for Imp Sneak Atk; hope you've been farming Mabar! W/out it, you'll have to tweak stats a bit. This build really focuses on maxing out sneak atks + Assassinate DCs; but the heavy investment in Acrobat boosts defenses (Imp Defensive Roll, Kip Up, Subtlety), as well as adding Haste Boost & Faster Sneaking. While leveling, your best bet is using rapiers / short swords to take advantage of drow racial weapon bonuses, but once you have Knife Spec, you're better off switching to daggers or kukris. Named daggers are more common, but eMidnight is an obvious choice for an Assassin (+2 Assassinate, INT to dmg). Finesse can be swapped out if you only use daggers, kukris, and staves. I don't consider Nothing is Hidden worth the AP cost, but feel free to tweak things so you can take it.

    Multiclassing a rogue is about giving up sneak atks & Assassinate DCs to address their shortcomings: i.e., low HPs, lack of self-healing & buffs, feat shortage, low Will & Fortitude saves, etc.

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    yeah rogue =) im an old school, a rogue its still a thief =P

    mabar its killing me =( i dont have that tome.

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    and for curious, when you finish the epic destiny of rogue. What path you choose?

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    Either Shadowdancer for the extra SA, +Assassinate DCs, Fortification reduction, and Shadow Form; or Legendary Dreadnought / Fury of the Wild for better "raw" DPS - my hunch is FotW is better for a dagger/kukri dual-wielder, but someone who's better at crunching DPS numbers than me could tell you for sure. I'd probably start SD, make Stealthy your first Twist (+6 Assassinate DCs), then explore some of the other EDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avepepix View Post
    and for curious, when you finish the epic destiny of rogue. What path you choose?
    Depends on what you are doing.

    If you are trying to farm fate points, then all directions are good.

    Likely most useful is to head to Legendary Deadnought so you get two martial spheres maxed out for Epic Destiny feats.

    Shadowdancer really is the best for an assassin build.

    Shiradi is great for ranged rogues.

    Spalshing monk grandmaster could be good.

    Otherwise the rest are just for grinding out fate points.
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    farming fate points form me, at least with my tank, its like a pain in the "know where" imagine a dwarf with 132 AC trying to be a monk... i cant imagine it farming the caster E.D.
    maybe with the rouge can be easily.
    The bad thing farming its that, for me at leastt, its boring, not hard, boring, theres almost nothing good to your toon there =(

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    DDO, like a lot of MMOs, is a game with diminishing returns; how much effort are you willing to invest to squeeze out an extra +1% DPS here or +1% survivability there?

    That said, a first-life drow rogue who chooses to stick with Shadowdancer because they hate ED farming - and I'm with you, I find XP-farming of any kind about as "fun" as watching paint dry - should still do great at its primary function, namely killing mobs dead thru lots of sneak atks & Assassinate. Anything you can add to that thru Twists is pure gravy, IMHO.

    EDIT: now, that said, my build relies on maxing out two Martial EDs and one Primal ED to get the ED feats I selected; if you don't expend that kinda effort, you can just take Toughness (twice).
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    Yeah, but in others MMO you can freely go here and there, killing all in your way, and pvp here and there, even became a pk. But this kind of game dosent have that.
    I get a lot of fun with my thank, and i imagine with a rogue can be more fun, the only question that came to my mind is, there are ways that your character dont get nothing, and you can get bored. Its effort necesary?

    i know an answer, reincarnation =P i dont know if its the only one =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    A pure rogue Assassin - sorry, D&D stopped calling them "thieves" after 2E - is still your best choice for sneak atk DPS; and a drow makes a natural fit with rogue thanks to their INT & DEX bonuses.

    Here's a sample build:
    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.19.02
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    Level 28 True Neutral Drow Female
    (20 Rogue \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 314
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 8
    Reflex: 17
    Will: 6
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength             11                    13
    Dexterity            16                    21
    Constitution         12                    14
    Intelligence         19                    34
    Wisdom                8                    10
    Charisma             10                    12
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
    +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
    
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Precision
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Drow Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Spell Resistance (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Drow - Drow Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Knife in the Darkness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Dagger in the Back (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Assassin's Trick (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Nimbleness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Lethality (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Deadly Shadow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Heartseeker Poison (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Venomed Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Venomed Blades (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Venomed Blades (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Execute (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Assassinate (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Measure the Foe (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Measure the Foe (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Measure the Foe (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Knife Specialization (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Control (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Stick Fighting (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Tumbler (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Kip Up (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sly Flourish (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sly Flourish (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sly Flourish (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Faster Sneaking (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Faster Sneaking (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Faster Sneaking (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Sneak Attack
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Reflexes
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target
    This presumes a +5 DEX tome to qualify for Imp Sneak Atk; hope you've been farming Mabar! W/out it, you'll have to tweak stats a bit. This build really focuses on maxing out sneak atks + Assassinate DCs; but the heavy investment in Acrobat boosts defenses (Imp Defensive Roll, Kip Up, Subtlety), as well as adding Haste Boost & Faster Sneaking. While leveling, your best bet is using rapiers / short swords to take advantage of drow racial weapon bonuses, but once you have Knife Spec, you're better off switching to daggers or kukris. Named daggers are more common, but eMidnight is an obvious choice for an Assassin (+2 Assassinate, INT to dmg). Finesse can be swapped out if you only use daggers, kukris, and staves. I don't consider Nothing is Hidden worth the AP cost, but feel free to tweak things so you can take it.

    Multiclassing a rogue is about giving up sneak atks & Assassinate DCs to address their shortcomings: i.e., low HPs, lack of self-healing & buffs, feat shortage, low Will & Fortitude saves, etc.
    Unbongwah, is this still considered a viable build over a year later? I haven't played the last few years, so working on getting a feel for my rogue again. What do you recommend for an attack rotation, since mine's now gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thescalybard View Post
    Unbongwah, is this still considered a viable build over a year later? I haven't played the last few years, so working on getting a feel for my rogue again. What do you recommend for an attack rotation, since mine's now gone?
    Harper has changed things quite a bit for assassins. There's also a few feats in that build that I wouldn't bother with anymore. Check out Hassan's Assassin in my sig for a current assassin build. It's built as a human but there are suggestions for converting it to a drow if that's what you want to play.
    White Feather Sniper: dps focused, 62DC paralyzing arrows human ranged ranger/The Divine Cuisinart: human tempest in divine crusader/Hassan's Assassin: 81DC halfling assassin/The Count of Monte Cristo: human swashbuckler/Dubbell O'Seven: WF artificer
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    Thanks for the update, CThru. I've been enjoying your builds, seeing an up-to-date assassin build is going to be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thescalybard View Post
    Unbongwah, is this still considered a viable build over a year later?
    The core build still works; if you have Harper, it gets better, thanks to INT-to-dmg (Strategic Combat) and Know the Angles (boosts dmg based on INT similar to how Div Might boosts DPS based on CHA). Overwhelming Crit dropped its STR and Gt Cleave pre-reqs - only pre-req. is an Imp Crit feat - so I would ditch Imp Sunder to take it. And w/out Imp Sunder, I might ditch Power Atk and just use Precision full-time; that would let you dump STR.

    Here's one option for drow:
    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.23.01
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    Level 28 True Neutral Drow Female
    (20 Rogue \ 8 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 324
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 9
    Reflex: 21
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 28)
    Strength              8                     8
    Dexterity            17                    21
    Constitution         14                    16
    Intelligence         18                    28
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             10                    10
    
    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
    +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
    +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 23
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 2 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 3 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Precision
    
    
    Level 4 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    
    
    Level 5 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 6 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 8 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    
    
    Level 9 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Knife in the Darkness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Dagger in the Back (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Assassin's Trick (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Nimbleness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Shiv (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Shiv (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Venomed Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Accuracy (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Execute (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Critical Damage (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Killer (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Sneak Attack Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Assassinate (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Measure the Foe (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Measure the Foe (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Knife Specialization (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 13 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
    
    
    Level 14 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
    
    
    Level 17 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 18 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Lethality (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Deadly Shadow (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Damage Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Assassin (Rog) - Measure the Foe (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Control (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Stick Fighting (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Tumbler (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Kip Up (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sly Flourish (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sly Flourish (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Sly Flourish (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Faster Sneaking (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Faster Sneaking (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Subtlety (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Defensive Roll (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief-Acrobat (Rog) - No Mercy (Rank 3)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: DEX
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Sneak Attack
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: First Blood
    12 APs saved for Harper: that's enough for Strategic Combat I&II (INT to-hit & dmg); Know the Angles; +1 INT; and Versatile Adept (+2 Melee Power). [If you don't have Harper, those APs can be spent anywhere you like.] I invested heavily into Acrobat for the defensive (knockdown immunity, Shadow Dodge, Imp Defensive Roll) and offensive (No Mercy, Haste Boost, Sly Flourish) perks.

    The advantage to starting DEX 17 is you don't need any tomes at all until lvl 24, where you need to hit DEX 21 for Imp Sneak Atk; I presumed a +3 DEX tome with 1 lvl-up into DEX.

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    Try a Halfling! The sneak damage and dodge bonus on that tree makes a great assassin or mechanic.
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