My initial reaction to the new system for earning Hearts of Wood was a big NO WAY. Then Turbine acquiesced a bit and are looking at the right things - reducing the number of comms required - hopefully providing a way to get it from other than sagas etc....it looks like they are coming around to our way of thinking.
But I would like to put one thing out there to the forumites.....I recently started grinding more tokens out to buy the hearts the old way just before U20 just in case they don't follow through on their promises and I started it when they were still not budging.
Anyway it reminded me of how few token/token fragments you got per quest. I don't 'grind' for the tokens by only doing challenges or EDA or what not - I just solo eH quests(with any of my 10-12 characters that at epic levels that I feel like that day) - the quicker quests usually (Snitch, Big Top, BoB, Von1/2 etc...) but they also produce fewer tokens (generally). I do that to get a chance at seals/scrolls/shards I want (ie. MNG, or AGA, or SOS maybe a few others) rather than the pure speed of challenge grinding. Doing it my way, which I would also interpret as more closely parallel with the way Turbine wants us to earn them in the new system (ie. run alot of different quests).....I earned an average of 50ish tokens per quest so to get a True Heart I need to run about 40 quests at that rate....this is closer to Turbines new Comm grind rate (if they drop the comms required to the 250 range like they have stated). Also it reminded me of how long it took me to grind out my first heart....yup about 40hours (especially as this was when epics were harder).
One other thing I did was consolidate all my loose tokens across all my characters to see how many I had total - before this new grind I had built up a cache of enough tokens to get 5 hearts (having spent another 10-12 or so over the years). I play a fair bit but by no means am I an epic grinder and I wasn't really active in epics until about 2011ish. I would say most of my recent token build up is from running epic raid nights with my guild so I get 1-2 per week just from that. So obviously my stash of tokens was built up very slowly over time. This was nice as I didn't feel a crushing need to complete any specific stuff - just go out and have fun.
So what am I saying:
1. I think the current 250 comms figure is close to correct if 3/quest +duplication in sagas is the correct figure (ie. say it averages to 6 that is about 40 quests).
2. The reason I could slowly build up so many hearts was because they were BTA - if I had to do this all on one character then I would have had to change my gaming style entirely.
3. Sagas can't be the only source because some of us are casual about this....and just want to have fun and accumulate them as we go along.
5. We all kinda knew the easy button of Challenge turn ins for tokens was too good to be true (~6hrs to grind a Heart). I think challenges should still give you tokens but the turnin rate needs to be tuned so that it more closely matches the other sources.
Anyway - thats my current thinking - that said I haven't thought much about the Epic Hearts or Iconic - I don't think I will do that much at this time....I like Level 1-20 too much to just keep doing the epic stuff.