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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    First of all, Drwaz: it's 2%, not 25
    I ninja edited your quote of me before you posted it!

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    Martial Sphere Review:

    Doublestrike:

    Stance: 2% Doublestrike per stack of this Past Life
    6% Doublestrike. I like it. I'd go as far as 3% per stack thou.

    Skill mastery:

    Stance: +1 to all Skills per stack of this Past Life
    No. Just no. Hell no. We already got +8 from epic levels. This is no good. Scrap it, give something to rogues please.

    Make this: you gain +2d4 Sneak attack damage per stack of this Past life. +2d4/4d4/6d4 Sneak Attack damage.

    Fortification:

    Stance: +10% fortification per stack of this Past Life.
    +30% fortification is hardly noticeable in the EEs. 15% per stack is a good deal.


    Passive: AC bonus.

    Why you keep giving us these? This is the martial sphere. We have Monks, Rogues and Fighters here and only the first ones can make something good out of AC.

    What do they have in common then? Damage.

    +1 damage per stack of past life. That traslates into +9 damage that everyone can use when fully stacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post


    Passive: AC bonus.

    Why you keep giving us these? This is the martial sphere. We have Monks, Rogues and Fighters here and only the first ones can make something good out of AC.

    What do they have in common then? Damage.

    +1 damage per stack of past life. That traslates into +9 damage that everyone can use when fully stacked.
    He makes a good point.

    Another option that would be helpful to everyone, and not just those pursuing AC, would be +1% dodge and +1 dodge cap. Or a higher value if +1 is deemed not high enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cetus View Post
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    Some nice ideas. I specially like the assassinate DC one. When was the last time Rogues had a buff to it with an item? Oh right. Never.

    I also like the different Passive Bonuses but I'm pretty sure that won't change at all. Some of their Past lives are just taken from Epic Destinies, which makes these Epic past lives really boring and for some lazy design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    Some nice ideas. I specially like the assassinate DC one. When was the last time Rogues had a buff to it with an item? Oh right. Never.

    I also like the different Passive Bonuses but I'm pretty sure that won't change at all. Some of their Past lives are just taken from Epic Destinies, which makes these Epic past lives really boring and for some lazy design.
    Epic Midnight Greetings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Systern View Post
    Epic Midnight Greetings?
    And that's it. That's like U minus 2?
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    Another reason for this horrendous 9 fold stacking -

    If I want to max out each sphere - that means 9 stacks per sphere. 4*9 = 36 ER's.

    36 * 3 million = 108 million xp

    Get out of here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post

    2% for an Epic Past life? As I understood this can't be stackable 3 times because it's not stated in the description.
    I'm guessing it does stack, since most of the PLs say that they do. It would get rather confusing if you had some that did stack and some that didn't. Its likely a text issue. If it isn't, it should be.


    After seeing the Iconic PLs, I'm more adamant about the Healing Power being weak.
    Healing Power: +10 Positive
    Bladeforge: +10 repair
    Morninglord: +10 light and alignment

    Those aren't EPLs and yet an EPL is comparable to them, that isn't acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cetus View Post
    Another reason for this horrendous 9 fold stacking -

    If I want to max out each sphere - that means 9 stacks per sphere. 4*9 = 36 ER's.

    36 * 3 million = 108 million xp

    Get out of here
    Big enough of a hamster wheel of little reward?

    The fanbois will love it, I'll be in the corner crying about there still not being an end-game.

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    Default suggestion/idea

    How about a special 4th (or more) past life unlock when u complete x9 Epic TR in a given sphere.

    ie, if you did x9 martial sphere epic TR, then you'd get "something"

    That "something" can be anything from a passive/active bonus to perhaps a 4th (or more) pastlife feat that can be earned by e-TR-ing again within the sphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by psteen1 View Post
    Passive Bonus: +2 AC per stack of this Past Life and +1 AC per Ten Character levels.

    Does that mean a 30 level character would be getting a +5 (2 base + 3 for 30 levels)?
    Yes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Saravis View Post
    Enchant Weapon: Odd to have this in the arcane sphere, guess its supposed to be for bards and EKs. Not complaining about it, just find it odd.
    To clarify, anyone can potentially take Epic Past Life feats from all Spheres, as long as you earn the Karma in that sphere.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vellrad View Post
    Can I activate one stance only, or one per sphere (at given time)?
    One stance per Sphere. Up to four Epic Past Life stances can be active in addition to an Iconic Past Life, along with all the passive bonuses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Systern View Post
    and Enchant Weapon is exceptionally weak... we give you 6.6 million xp, and you give us a Level 1 Arti Spell/Tier 1 bard enhancement.
    This stacks and gives you an item that would be otherwise unobtainable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cetus View Post
    Another reason for this horrendous 9 fold stacking -

    If I want to max out each sphere - that means 9 stacks per sphere. 4*9 = 36 ER's.

    36 * 3 million = 108 million xp

    Get out of here
    My brain might be fried so where is the 3 million coming from? Shouldn't it be roughly 6.6 million (to 28 and more to 30), 36 times?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    This stacks and gives you an item that would be otherwise unobtainable.
    Yes it does. but it's also forgettable. I will probably never notice +1 enchant or it's absence.. It's nice when I have it from an Arti, but I never have I ever said, "Damn, I wish I had Enchant Weapon right now."
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    For all the people saying that the PLs are weak: Well, so are the heroic ones.

    Also, 1% elemental absorbtion isn't very useful by itself. I'd only notice that it's there if my character got hit with 100+ elemental damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    Specific suggestions welcome, as always.
    Sadly, I don't have a specific suggestion.

    Most of these are somewhat useful. Some look like they would be awesome for certain builds.

    But, for me, for my main (only played) character, there is NOTHING compelling.

    Now, to be fair, I feel the same way about most of the Heroic Past Lives: slightly useful, but not compelling enough to be worth acquiring. (A few I feel are completely useless, to me.) But not all of them, which is why I've been knocking out 3 each past lives of selected classes.

    However, not a single one of these Epic Past Lives is worth a whole bunch of extra grind TO ME.

    If these are the Epic Past Lives that go live, then I won't be Epic Reincarnating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post
    To clarify, anyone can potentially take Epic Past Life feats from all Spheres, as long as you earn the Karma in that sphere.
    How do you earn Karma in a Sphere? has this been spelled out yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post

    This stacks and gives you an item that would be otherwise unobtainable.
    Varg, I'll try to say this in the nicest way:

    +1 Enhancement bonus is utterly, majesticly, amazingly ****. Specially in the Arcane Sphere. It equals to NINE SPELL POWER. NINE!!!

    Scrap it already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vargouille View Post



    This stacks and gives you an item that would be otherwise unobtainable.
    Huh
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    Lol, so to add insult to injury (karma):

    It seems that 1 xp = 1 karma. And when I place my ER heart into the UI, it says that I need to spend 6 million karma to tr.

    So, boys and girls - it seems, if I'm not mistaking, that it takes earning 6 million xp in a sphere in order to ER each time you want to.

    Ha, Varg - I'm patiently waiting to be corrected here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizza View Post
    Varg, I'll try to say this in the nicest way:

    +1 Enhancement bonus is utterly, majesticly, amazingly ****. Specially in the Arcane Sphere. It equals to NINE SPELL POWER. NINE!!!

    Scrap it already.
    Please don't.

    I don't think the point is to have something uber for casters in this one. The point is something that works for melee/casting hybrids or characters out of sphere. I'd use it on a fighter or paladin any day. I might not grind for it on one, but then I've never grinded a completionist.

    In a strange way, this whole lot is an odd nerf to Shiradi casters. What EPL are they going to benefit from while earning Karma in Primal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cetus View Post
    Lol, so to add insult to injury (karma):

    It seems that 1 xp = 1 karma. And when I place my ER heart into the UI, it says that I need to spend 6 million karma to tr.

    So, boys and girls - it seems, if I'm not mistaking, that it takes earning 6 million xp in a sphere in order to ER each time you want to.

    Ha, Varg - I'm patiently waiting to be corrected here.
    Which would be the trip from 20-28.

    (To go back to the post previous of yours in this thread) So instead of 36*3million = 108million

    It's 36*6million = 216million XP.

    og..help.

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