Advocating repeated nerfs in the name of "balancing the game" then complaining about how DDO is moving away from D&D, is a direct contradiction in logic - D&D 3.5 (what DDO is based on) is not a balanced game. We can either have a balanced clone MMO with homogenized classes, or we can have a D&D game. We cant have both.
www.legendsguild.eu A light RP guild that's moved from Keeper in Europe to Thelanis
Play DDO in 3D, for fweeeee! how to use coloured 3D glasses with DDO.
East? West? Which way's that? Putting East and West back on the (mini)map
Tired of chasing blue dots? Find a speed or striding item, vets are hooked on them and you will be too!
Those are in and of themselves a contribution to the issue. It was not an attack at the company. It was a peaceful protest. I wasn't there because DDO just doesn't matter to me anymore. But I liked DDO enough that I do think people have a point in what quality they expect from the company.
I know they need money, but they need to think about where they're getting it from. TRing is already too ingrained into the game for them to mess with it too much. It has already done it's job of extending the longevity and interest in the game. I fear they are very close to "double-dipping". They've already made a fair amount of cash from monetizing it in the first place with XP pots and such. They really don't want to remind people that it already is a cost to the game player, one that is paid by a fair amount of players in one form or other (you need packs of content to play in the first place and xp pots to deal with the xp requirements).
The value of the requirements is one thing. The placeholder values however are not all the issue. There is also the fact that they were discussing the quick removal of a current system which has already been "paid for" in "playtime". Yes, everything is transient; I myself may not ever even TR again, so I may not have any need for those Tokens in the first place. But it was "earned" by me when I was either paying a monthly sub or purchasing the content that had the Epic content I wanted to play in.
Creating a new system with a new currency is understandable and actually desirable. I would like to do something new. I would prefer for it to be more linear with new high level quests rather than this whole Reincarnation stuff through previous content, but that is pretty much all they are adding to the game. And they are trying too hard to de-value a system that did it's job perfectly well of getting people to continually play and thus purchase things in the game.
They still mean to de-value Tokens at some point. But the fact that it won't be this update, even though the replacement was initially a major point of this update, is something rather large; it is time added to the value of a system that they want to defunct. To make it to a more fine point; it is the reason I don't log into my characters and just convert them all into HoW. Because if that's what the game made me do I wouldn't bother. That's just too quick of a change otherwise; filling my inventory with countless HoW would just make it not worth it to ever bother. Which means any thought of me being a paying customer is just thrown out the window.
And I think the bridge made a very good point of making a visible "stink". And that if nothing else, it bought time. We can't really measure it but it was no small contributor of that. It was about being Visible more than Vocal. It may have some further effect, it may not. I wasn't there, I just don't care about this video game to do that. But I think for Turbine's sake it also illustrates that they did something right as well, that they created a game that many people like are are passionate about. I hope the game has a few more good years. I think it could if they shift into more quality content. More design rather than re-design.
Personally I wouldn't even be that annoyed if they changed them back to epic tokens, put them in every epic level quest and upped the amount needed if they are *that* desperate to sell more in the store, heck even if they double the amount, or even more than double the amount needed. This saga thing though is just..............., I do run saga's but like to do it for the current rewards...........thats when all the quests in a saga are *available* if it goes through like how it was first suggested I would be running saga's only for the coms, missing out on all the other stuff. And having them btc is also crippling, I like running alts and farming stuff that I can then use across all my toons, this btc coms for tr hearts is going to make it less attractive to play their other characters, it might make getting balanced parties even harder......."hey man we really need CC in this quest can you bring your bard along? " sorry man, ive got to farm saga's only on my main now, all my alts are on the back burner".....................
Im also tired of how a lot of things are introduced then abandoned half finished if that, yay a whole new system again.
While I really could not bring myself to care less about what you have to say on this topic, in fact, I have come to all but ignore your posts, as I find you little more then mildly amusing in your antic, it does seem rather fascinating to see you act in this manner. While I would just write you off as troll baiting, like most, your continual investment into this topic tends to make it seem as if you have something at risk here, that what is transpiring is indeed far more valuable to you then you want to let on.
While I can't say I am moved to wonder what your motives are, I do find that it piques my interest that you deny any investment into the situation, while yet you squander your time here on the forums decrying people for voicing something that does concern them. I wonder how it must feel to have such omnipotent visage of yourself, to view that the world must abide by what you consider significant and important.
I scratch my head a bit about his protesting about a game is not on................well people are protesting about a video game *in* a video game its not like they are all camped outside turbines offices or anything or harassing people outside the game, and they are not even really harassing people inside it. I don't really see why he should really care. So outside of getting a kick out of winding people up..................I don't know, maybe hes so in love with turbine that anything negative about it gets his panties in a twist? Though this sort of thing isn't always bad, it can be good for the company showing them how some of their customers feel about things in game, so might lead them to making better decisions and plans for the future who knows?
Last edited by NaturalHazard; 10-23-2013 at 11:56 PM.
Might be the purpose is to get people ramped up enough that this thread gets locked.
There is no free lunch.
Last edited by Lanhelin; 10-24-2013 at 02:49 AM.
I'm afriad I have to ask everyone to leave the wayfinder bridge and go to your homes. I have a permit from Stormreach city counsel to start a new protest on the Wayfinder bridge:
*Exploiters occupy stormreach!*
Day 1 we'll need an exploiter to start a guild, named something snappy: I suggest "Turbine made me do it" or "if they leave the keys in the car I should be allowed to take it"
Oh wait I'm being told some information....
Whats that? They can't?
Oh I see..
two extra weeks?
Okay I'll tell them...
Alright never mind go back to your sit in, apparently the exploiters can't make it for two more weeks.
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