But seriously, I'm not saying the change is good or bad at this point, just pointing out that Doom posts aren't news.
edit: neither are posts pointing out that doom posts aren't news. nor are thread hijacks. nor 'this has all happened before' ses... And now, for something completely different:
Last edited by BOgre; 10-18-2013 at 06:39 PM. Reason: lame comedy
Originally Posted by Towrn
are you crazy? why should people grind to tr? people already grind so much to the level cap.... turbine want player to keep playing the game, not quiting at cap because laze to grind out token..
so far this seem to the best idea turbine had in years..
edit: this will also lead to way more epic gameplay, rather then everyone farming one or two quest(challenge) for token... seem to be doing more good then harm to me..
edit2: on second thought, maybe they should keep the old trader at twelve... give people some choice and option..
Last edited by burningwind; 10-18-2013 at 06:50 PM.
And if you think this change wont promove a harder grind than the one we have now..... well, you may be interested in a bridge i own in San Francisco, very cheap my friend, trust me.
For me the real problem with this mechanism is that it forces people who want to heroic TR to play at epic levels for an unknown amount of time. What if you just want to get to 20 and heroic TR? One of my friends has no interest at all in epic levels. He just keeps trying out new builds and tests them to 20, then starts over. I can't begin to guess how many monk past lives he has. This change has him foaming at the mouth about how Turbine keeps narrowing players' options.
It can't be good business practice to remove choices from players if you want to maintain your old player base as well as grow your new one. As my friend described it - it's like changing from being forced to run a maze to reach the cheese at the end to being forced to run down a narrow hall to reach the cheese.
I truly hope Turbine reconsiders this decision.
To me, its not so much the idea of a new system, its that this new system is being literally rammed down our collective throats.. if they at least gave the players a chance to burn off their tokens they have for their hearts, it will extend it that much longer over simply saying "Buy them now or lose out!". It's way to heavy handed, and I don't exactly like where this is gonna go with it being pushed as hard as it is.
Never mind that we still don't have the second half to the new affix-suffix system, among other things. But the itemization thing stands out just the same.
Science may be theory, but stupidity is proven.
I know the real reason why they did this:
Too many people stocked up on thousands of tokens, and it's impossible to get rid of them all. Thus, they nerf the tokens instead so that they don't lose out on bunches of DDO store sales.
i put this in general for a reason.
please move it back.
thanks all who commented, turbine please realize that this is not a good change, this just makes people feel more limited in what they can do.
people do not like to be limited.
i support adding ability to get tr hearts in epic sagas, just please do not remove the ability to purchase them from the 12.
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Removing THOW from the Twelve forces a lot of us to buy Expansions and packs. You know that face we get when we feel betrayed. It also makes the hardcore ftp person who only earns T-Points with favor (Does not have the means to buy TPoints) to save them all just for a THOW from the Store (There will be no other way for them to get the means to Heroic TR). Guess they won't be playing anymore. New customers who just want to be ftp and have no idea about this will get up to level 20 and then find out they have to spend money just to TR (Buy more packs/Expansions or you can't TR). They will get that face they feel when betrayed and will also feel like a jackass and probably shrug their shoulders and say oh well it was fun while it lasted and not play anymore.
This removes a delicate balance that the game has. And that balance is that true ftp folks will be extinct.
Will there be a ftp saga that gives this out?
And like another person in this thread said and I think I read it the same way: We have to run Epic just to Heroic TR or be forced to purchase our TR?
Or and this a big Or. Did Tolero forget to say that THOW is no longer available in the Twelve but the Changed name is. If this is the case then a HUGE LOL! and this Thread is shattered.
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