I would rather have it the way it is now *flawed* though it maybe than have people the power to just boot party members when they feel like it.
Hires are annoying but I let people summon them if they need them, and we even sometimes park em in safe spot, and only use as to buff, or raise a player if we want to save clickies.
Its almost like a special skill to keep a hire alive, I suppose you get better at it, if you actually need the hire to heal you, some people I know seem like pros, I often summon hire, use to buff then forget to stop it following me, and then realise its dead way back where ever lol.
Last edited by NaturalHazard; 10-16-2013 at 06:21 PM.
here's the relevant quote from the OP:
And until proven wrong, that is the stand I will maintain, because that makes the most logical sense.
If the OP is someone who gets their panties in such a twist over the whole hireling thing wouldn't it be logical that they would put no hires in their lfm panels if they had been so annoyed with people summoning hires in the past?
Maybe if they said they did is motive enough? or is it just more simple to believe anyone you disagree with is just lying right off the bat as well.......it doesn't suit you?
To the OP the leader can't dismiss character who is in the currently in the quest.
Something that has happened to me (referred to as guild hate above) I joined a party and after about 30 seconds (everyone was still buffing/gathering) I was booted from the party without explanation and when I asked why I was told a guildie told him to boot me without providing either an explanation or any more information. This was by a member of a larger guilds on the server. To date I still have no idea why some members of the guild hate me, but I have run just fine with other members of the guild.
mmm. odd. i've never EVER seen someone specify "no hires"
i've seen plenty of BYOH which people typically assume to mean no hires, zerg, speed run, trapper needed, healer needed, hire in party - send tell... i've seen all those.. but never "no hires"
i can't say if the OP did actually post exactly that or not... i'm not the OP. i don't know. i can say i've never seen an LFM like that.
if he DID post exactly that, and someone popped a hire anyway... that's when it's time to 1. ask nicely to adhere to the request in the LFM panel, and if they don't, then 2. recall, reform, squelch.
if he did NOT post that, and all he posted was BYOH IP... he can be as ****y as he wants... meh. deal... and be more specific next time if it really bothers you that much that you have to ragepost about it
Believe it or not I type exactly the same thing in my LFMs as I said in original post. You think I am a liar? Whatever. I don't care. I am done with this discussion and thanks everyone who got the point.
hmm. i wonder if it's a server thing then. for curiosity i've been watching the Orien LFM panel for about the last hour... no "no hires" posts at all.
on an unrelated note... LOL @ at the "no pants" LFM on argo right now...
Anyway I would suggest for people who need a hire to stay alive to steer clear of byoh LFM's or to send a tell asking the leader if its ok if they bring a hire, it would most likely lead to a better playing experience for both types of players. At the least send a tell, some people who put byoh don't mind hireling use but a fair few seem to. Some people don't even join byoh lfms on *principle* even if they can, cause when they see that, they get their panties in a bunch so they do the right thing and don't join, the right thing for themselves and whoever has the lfm up.
Last edited by NaturalHazard; 10-16-2013 at 07:28 PM.
"no hire" lfms are real. just because someone hasn't seen one doesn't mean they don't exist. ive seen several the last few days and do see them from time to time. sorry no ss but this isn't something that needs to be proven and find it hilarious that people actually argue that they don't exist.
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