Man, that Ungood guy sure is weiner.
Just to make sure I've understood this interaction;
OP claims one thing then complains about.
Ungood then calls the OP a liar, petty and makes a pretty bold claim that in 4 years x has never once happened on his watch.
X number of people report otherwise yet Ungood continues to claim "illogical."
OP confirms original statement, Ungood continues to act like everyone isn't proving him wrong.
Ungood continues Internet tough guy routine on new people
That about right?
Well, petty was the right word. Just directed at the wrong poster.
how rare they are (and your analogy is way out of scale), that's not the same thing. part of your argument is based on "they don't exist", but they do. several people have now reported this to be the case.
so - is everyone lying to you, or have you learned something new today?
"People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. ... People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true." Terry Goodkind
on a serious note, if you play well, that hire will make it to the end unscaved.
on non self healing toons i usualy cary a hire as a back up to potions/scrolls, just in case, good puggers are hard to find , let allone divines that are willing to babysit.
If leaders had the power to dismiss hires at a whim, what is stopping the butthurt leader to dismiss the only source of healing to the tank during a though bossfight?
Where do you people get this stuff? Trying to have discussions on this forum is like trying to argue with someone on an acid trip where they just make up what other people say and respond to that no matter how ignorant or foolish they look or sound doing so. No wonder I can't have discussions or make points with people like you. Maybe today you will learn how to read what people actually write.
I don't think you will, in fact, I don't think you ever will, and as much as I may one day like to be, I don't believe I will ever be proven wrong either by the likes of you.
TL-DR: If you can't respond to what I have actually said, stop showing your stupidity by quoting me and responding to some made up straw-man of yours.
Last edited by Ungood; 10-17-2013 at 08:36 AM. Reason: I tire of the petty bickering.
I have seen a few "byoh (not a hire)" postings on orien over the years but they are very rare
As for the original point of the thread, i think introducing a mechanic for leaders to boot hires is a big waste of time
In the hundreds, maybe thousands of pugs ive been in, this has never once been an issue. Ive seen ppl pop hires in a short-man run without asking, but nobody cared
But stuff like this happens in pugs. Thats the fun. Why do ppl get so mad and demand MORE CONTROL to ENSURE this NEVER happens again!! Lighten up. Im sure you completed anyway
Ah but you see when you wrote that it was extremely unlikely to have happen so much so that it would be unacceptable to believe without proof, what you ACTUALLY meant was that it never ever happened. In fact, for even trying to pretend otherwise makes you a petty terrible person. In my 4 years of Internet in I've never seen some say what you said and not mean at all and ever.
Now if you'll excuse us I now have to defend my scarecrow argument aggressively in the face of all oopposition
(Lol "learn to read" as if that's not the basis of why we're making fun of you )
just a quick note...
"i haven't seen it" =/= "it doesn't exist."
let me extrapolate for you:
"i haven't seen it... yet people from every server claim it happens. it must happen some time, but wow... must be rare."
so given a very rare occurrence... and the assumption by a large number of the playerbase that "BYOH" does NOT include hires for healing... it is easy for someone to then extend that and assume that someone simply said "BYOH" and not "BYOH (no hires)"
personally, i don't care if he did or not.. like i said before... if he did have a LFM saying that, and someone did it anyway, he had 2 choices. (also, if its that common that it brings you to ragepost about it... dang. i don't wanna say your server sucks, but...)... i just see how someone could easily hold the opinion that they OP might have been embellishing for the sake of the story.
thank you.. yes. ^
just one note...
having the ability to kick the hire, and/or a checkbox on the LFM for the leader to disallow hires (suggested by phoenix-dabard i think) are good ideas
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