Ran the pit earlier today with four players and two hires and no deaths, (not even hireling deaths), and it was one of the best pit parties I've experienced. None of us knew the entire quest, only fractions of it, and our cooperation helped us finish it in less than 30 minutes. The quest was on elite and we were within level to add to our elite streaks. Anyway my point is cooperation in quests can go a long way and it's fun when it happens. This is what ddo should be about, and not following one guy who knows everything and the rest of the party just tags along, gets lost and people die. Sadly there's always that one guy who dies and gets left behind. You usually find him in the lava. And no one else wants to go get him because no one else knows where they're going and they don't want to die also.